"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

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  1. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The data you provided is unread by you, thus you have no idea what it shatters. You imagine a lot of things, none of which are true.
     
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    The data is perfectly clear. It shows that every first world country with single payer has better care than we do, for a fraction of the cost. I’m sorry if that conflicts with your ideology, but that doesn’t change reality.
     
  3. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Banned

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    There is no "deal". A deal involved all parties consenting to the deal, and.I did not consent. It is my property and my land that I purchased with the fruits of my labor, why would I leave?
     
  4. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    By living here you have given consent. But you are free to leave and no longer be party to the deal. Your choice. That's freedom baby
     
  5. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Banned

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    Lol...no one *takes* money from the government. All the money government has was taken from people.
     
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    By living here I have given no such consent. There is no deal. The fact that I exist is a particular area where people have drawn imaginary lines on a peice of paper in no way validates consent.
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    Sorry that is the deal. If you think it isnt then dont pay your taxes.

    Let me know how that goes. Lol
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    With consent
     
  9. kreo

    kreo Well-Known Member

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    I think he would not be so vocal against "Medicare for all" by paying one grant a month for the health insurance.
    If health insurance cost less then one offered on the open market it is subsidized health insurance.
     
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    The whole discussion here is about redistribution of tax payers money.
     
  11. kreo

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    Yep, the investigation should be started with every denial of a claim.
     
  12. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Banned

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    That's irrelevant. No one *takes* money from government. You may disagree with how government "distributes" other people's money, but that is different.
     
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    I was wondering when you were going to jump in once the ridiculous single player claim was made.
     
  14. Collateral Damage

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    Actually, it depends on they type of coverage, deductible, co-insurance, co-pay, prescription co pay, if it's a PPO, and HMO or open list as to how much it costs either privately, group plan, carrier and employer group size.

    I'd suggest you might do a little further reading on the subject.
     
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    So if someone submits a claim for a rectalectomy, the insurance company should just pay it? If it is not a covered service, or a preauthorization was not obtained, the insurance company should still have to pay it? At what percentage? What about if the Dcotor charges XXX, but the plan the person is on only allows for XX? Should that be investigated too?

    You are not being realistic in your expectations.
     
  16. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How is he gonna cover the cost of that cranio-rectalectomy??
     
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    What is ridiculous about the data conflicting with your ideology?
     
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    Thank you for admitting that there is coercion, whether you realized it or not. Thus...no consent.

    It's been fun making you trip over your own words. It was valiant effort, but you fell short.
     
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    I accept your concession. You are here by choice. You are not a victim. Lol
     
  20. kreo

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    The subject (the system) is sucks, regardless of what is written about the subject.
    To use health insurance properly one need a specialist or accountant and still have at risk to lose the whole life saving.
     
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    That is exactly why "Medicare for All" is much more efficient then Medical Cartel money sucking / budget breaking criminal machine.
     
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    I am very realistic, because I understand that all this BS about claims and approvals is not necessary to provide health care services.
     
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  23. TedintheShed

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    I know you're embarrassed. You tripped over your own words. I made you look foolish. Now you're trying to save face.

    It's okay son, we've all had those moments!
     
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    What's your effective tax rate?
    Well talk about who's subsidizing who
     
  25. Collateral Damage

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    I am thrilled that someone else knows about that procedure. I've always heard it as a cranial-rectal inversion. Still don't know if it's covered though....
     
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