Why Arabs Do Not Trust the Biden Administration

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  1. mswan

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    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/17734/biden-arabs-trust


    “The main concern for the Arabs is that the "humiliating" manner in which the US ended its presence in Afghanistan has sent a message to Iran and its proxies -- Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis -- that the Americans are not only weak, but that they cannot be trusted to support or defend their allies.

    The Iran-backed Houthis appear to be telling themselves: If the US is so weak and has no problem betraying its allies and friends, perhaps this is the right time to step up the attacks on Saudi Arabia.”
     
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    Hmmmmm. How reliable is the source

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gatestone-institute/
     
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    How MANY of the 19, 9-11 terrorist hijackers were Saudi's????? We should blacklist them.
     
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    mswan Well-Known Member

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    What? This thread isn’t about blacklisting anyone.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uhhh, you realize that the same corporations that own the MSM, are the ones who created the media fact check to discredit opposing viewpoints? Then again maybe you don't know.

    As for Gatestone, they have as much right to offer their view as others do. I never agreed with their take on things,, but at least it's their own view, and they're not mimicking the editorials of sites.
     
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    The author of the article in the OP, Khaled Abu Toameh, is an award winning Israeli journalist. A Muslim Arab from Jerusalem. He's currently the Palestinian affairs correspondent for‭ ‬The Times of Israel‭ (left-center biased, generally trustworthy). Before that he wrote for the Jerusalem Post (right-center biased, generally trustworthy). ‬He has been the Palestinian affairs producer for NBC News (left-center biased, generally trustworthy) since 1988, His articles have appeared in many other newspapers.

    The Arab world's trust in American administrations is steadily declining for decades, since the Obama years, made worse by Trump's erratic behavior. Biden is, in some ways, worse than his predecessors. He literally projects weakness, at least where the Arab and Muslim world is concerned.
     
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    Hell I'm American I don't trust the bastard.

    But I guess the good news is they tell me he doesn't lie and he told us that he was going to eradicate cancer if he was elected so any day now we should be through with cancer.
     
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    Wow .. good find but pure - unadulterated propaganda .. as one might expect from a Policy Institute "Gatestone" in this case.. trying to jerk another drop of milk from the Houthi /Hamas Cow... keep the necessary illusion alive - why we need the Military Industrial Complex -- why we must be strong against these threats .. and continue to pump 2 Trillion (over 20 years) into Afghanistan.

    The analysis is obscenely ignorant of what is happening in Foreign Policy" so much so that it has to be intentional disingenuous ignorance.

    First .. who are the Arabs being referred to .. might as well be specific - Brother El Saud. Who's main objective is to turn as much Geography as possible into Strict Sharia Vunderland - Saudi Style .. Huge Check in the box for Afghanistan .. could not love it more. Bin Laden is dancing in his Grave .. The US spent most of the last decade - arm in arm with Brother El saud in 2 wars - arm in arm with Al Qaeda and ISIS .. whose objective was to turn Syria/Yemen in to El Saud Style Srict Sharia Wonderland.

    Libya - a friggen mess - Jihadists wonderland central .. along with what we did to Iraq come to think of it.

    Did these Gatestone moron's not get the memo or what ?
     
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    The US can't be trusted.

    They made the coup happen against the elected Iranian government, in order to install a fascist dictator for economical gains.
    The US remains to have an extremely hostile relationship towards Iran, for ousting their puppet dictator.
    They helped out the Afghans to fight the USSR, but left the place totally destroyed after 10 years of war, not giving a damn about how everything was blown to pieces.
    The US helped Saddam Hussein to use poisonous gas in warfare and so is complicit with the Kurds.
    The US politically supported the Mash Arabs during the 1st gulf war, to then just turn their backs on them when their mashes got drained and their towns got bombed.
    The US committed genocide against the Iraqi people in the oil-for-food program. By refusing Iraq to import what is needed to purify water. 500.000's children died. Albright labelled that "worth it".
    The US flat out lied about the WMD's in Iraq, starting the 2nd gulf war for no reason. Under their responsibility, they caused ISIS to spawn. 100.000's of people died.
    The US supports the genocide in Yemen.
    The US went to war in Afghanistan to get OBL, but actually went nation building for 20 years, pushing though an utterly massive cultural change that they do not want... and dropped it.
    The US supported that Iran non nuclear deal, and than just totally dropped it.


    And everything Biden does now...
    It's rather obvious that Trump will undo it all if he gets elected.
     
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    I am with you all the way - I too support the Taliban, Russia and Iran.
    Long live the revolution.
     
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    fake news, the Afghan Army cut tail and ran without a fight, that was the message the Afghan people received loud and clear
     
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    As we speak, Biden is removing military equipment from Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Why Arabs Do Not Trust the Biden Administration

    More important is that Americans don't trust the Biden administration.
     
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    Iran and its proxies don't trust the US. Wow, that's a real newsflash.

    When is the last time they trusted any US admin?

    LOL. Leave it to Breitbart and Gatestone Institute.......
     
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    Trust us to do what exactly? Fight for them?
     
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    Why don't the Saudi royals use some of their godzillion dollars stashed away and BUY themselves an army...want us to do your fighting, then PAY up, Effendi!!!
     
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    I wonder if those 10 isis terrorists we killed with the drone trusted the Xidens?
     
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    Between us, you're the only one supporting that.
    So sorry you can't debunk what I said and resort to personal attacks.
     
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    They have poured hundreds of billions into US military gear since the 1951 Mutual Defense Assistance Agreement. They are the 2nd largest arms importers in the world.
     
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    The US went nation building and inserted western norms that them Saudi's don't agree with. So I don't understand you think the Saudi's should go and fight a pointless war against people who never harmed them, while their religious values are even closely related. That 20 year war should never have happened. Total fail GOP policy.
     
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    Have you read the whole article, or just the first lines? Hint: it's not about Iran not trusting the US, it's about the US' Arab allies not trusting the US.

    Americans don't understand the Middle East.
     
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    The article, rubbish as it is, could not be about Iran because (a) Iran isn't an Arab country; (b) has no reason to trust any US administration of either party; and (c) given its source, is clearly written to reflect the attitudes among Israelis and the anti-Iran Arab despots and lackeys which the US befriends and refers to as its "allies" in the region.
     
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    It's not a personal attack. If you don't support the Western allies
    then you support these dictatorships - by default.
    A bit like in the Vietnam war - many claimed to be against America
    but also claimed not to support the Communists. But their protest
    was solely against America, and when the Communists did precisely
    what the 'peace movement' said they would NOT do - there was zero
    protest.
    So yeah, long live the revolution (but not the one starting in Cuba)
     

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