Why are our young men so effeminate?

It's nothing to be ashamed about. There will be medical breakthroughs.

 

Again what is Lo-T. I typed it into google and got 'lot.com'. Do you need a medical breakthrough to tell me what it is, is that what you are trying to tell me mate?

 

probably low testosterone which can happen in a multitude of ways creating these girly men or girly men to boyz.

 

Does low testosterone inhibit childish phrases like 'Lo-T'? I wander....

 

You would have to ask the scientific community that question, for I do believe I've seen it in some of their medical manuals.

 

This thread must be about young white boys as the only one's who count as "our" young men. Don't worry cowboy grandpa and biker father, they will still beat a fool with their skate board and probably get laid more than Jim Morrison. Only half of young white boys fit the description, the rest are really into MMA and are tougher than any of you ever were. America moves on. Whether "long hairs" or Emos, "wiggas" or juggalos, kick ass and take names. Grandpa will always think he is better. Such is the nature of the beast.

 

Just curious, would you be grouping those fatsos who wear their jeans so low that their ass cracks looks like St Andreas fault line in with those who you consider to be tough? Would their icons like Michael Jackson and the Back Street Boys also fit your definition of being tougher than grandpa?

 

LOL. There was a time when cowboys were the hippies. And to be honest, the actual cowboy age was a period of 25 years, and was over with well over a century ago. Those who dress like cowboys, like weekend bikers who are all dentists and mortgage brokers, have no business talking trash about anyone. I don't know any black or brown Americans complaining of their "effeminate youth". Be glad it means the majority of white youth still have good lives, as globalism is sure to end soon, and they are simply dressing like the genre of the music they enjoy and the girls they want to screw. It is no big deal. And MMA is mixed martial arts, puts boxing and wrestling to shame, and whether they sag their pants or not, yes, they would kick the crap out of you. As many young men want to be MMA fighters as people that were trying to rap 10 years ago. I would rather fight a wannabe rapper than a wannabe MMA fighter, even if he is training to no avail.

 

Are you saying fatties werent around back in the old days?

Probably. Depends what grandpa's icon was. Point is though the older generation always harps on about how much stronger and capable they are. Reality is this is just nonsense. A good example is the fact the brutality of sport has only increased despite people's cries of 'men are so effeminate'.

 

Not as many, that's for sure. Haven't you been listening to michelle obama's speechs on adolescent obesity--especially the crisis with obesity with the black folks?

You gotta be kiddin! Brutality of the sport has increased? They're thinking about making hockey fights a crime in the NHL. Kids don't even play sports anymore, unless you call it brutal when maneuvering a joy stick around when playing a video sports game. Remember playing dodge ball at elementary school? Well, most of these schools have outlawed that game as well citing that it was too brutal or dangerous for our young effeminate boys to play.

 

I recently read an article in the New England Journal of Medicine concluding to the effect that men born before 1985 are less likely to have experienced toxins contaminating such a large percentage of younger men born after that date.

The younger cohort of men have had medical side effects as a result of the toxic contamination, e.g., the development of man boobs, slurring speech patterns, nasal discharge, hair loss, and low testosterone.

 

The dodgeball thing is a myth. Kids still play dodgeball at recess, at least my boys (age 11 and 13) did. Don't play it in middle school, though.

 

The water's full of female hormone stuff, and everyone grovels to their masters. People who beat their chests and roar aren't men, you know, just imitation apes.

 

I have a relative that fights with a team...Kickboxing but more like, punching, kicking and wrestling all in one. Can't remember if the venue was MMA or not..They have them at the local Indian Casino. There are a few women who compete with other women and those matches are quite intense as the women tend to want to pound each other to a pulp. The women are much more aggressive than the men.

 

Yeah, I agree. The female fights are brutal. Gina Carano is as sexy as it gets, and tough as nails. Dream girl. Know the kids would always be safe with her as mom, lol.

 

I think the whole cause (and I call it wimpyness, because it afflicts girls as well) has more to do with the removal of all forms of risk from a society. You can't swing a dead cat without finding something along those lines.

-- Speech codes in schools (can't let kids get upset by hearing a thought they don't like)

-- No competition in the more liberal schools, and when there is a competition, everyone gets a trophy

-- We have a hard time calling ANYTHING wrong. even the thought of calling people out on rudeness is not allowed, let alone suggesting that allowing kids to drink at your house is wrong.

-- No real standards or expectations. Honestly I don't get it. When I was a kid, it was simply expected that you'd clean up your room. If you wanted something, you saved your allowance for it. Now mommy buys it. It used to be expected that kids would do homework, but now not so much, in fact there's a movement about to eliminate homework altogether (I guess the kids just don't have enough time to goof off on the streets)

-- Achievement is downgraded. If you have a kid who gets interested in school and work his but off, people worry about his social development. The kids laugh at him. The entire culture is set up to mock the hardworking man, whilst holding up the man-boy who lives at the corner pub leering at women.

 

The assumption in this, besides the recurring delusional 'its all the liberals' theme in the points made here, is that men are actually become more or are more effeminate in today's society. This has yet to be substantiated by ANYONE and seems mostly just the uninformed and angry opinion of old conservatives that are clearly out of touch with the world around them.

 

'Manliness' and 'effeminacy' aren't notions that lend themselves to evidence, I think - and their meaning changes all the time, so the old have always a great deal of experience that they think justifies what they say (I'd regard anyone who used a gun against civilian people as a sneaky coward, for instance). American conservatives, on the other hand, blame 'liberals' for everything from the Holocaust to Athlete's Foot because they pawned their brains years since to pay for trade goods to impress the Joneses.

 

Is dotage a bad thing?

 

Well, in America, there is absolutely no movement to get rid of homework. My boys have homework every night (except weekends), and have since kindergarden.

 

But how many hours do American upper-level-high-school students spend on homework each week, on the average? According to what I read recently, it is about five hours.

Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
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Tell you when I get there.

 

Maybe endocrine disruptors in the environment.

 

Or maybe not..http://www.greenfacts.org/en/endocrine-disruptors/endocrine-disruptors.htm

http://epa.gov/endo/pubs/edspoverview/whatare.htm

 

I disagree that it's liberalism per say, it's a cultural trend. The trend essentially is to remove risk and delayed gratification from our society. And really, since when have men been obsessed enough with appearances to get plastic surgery? When have fewer men been willing to do the dangerous jobs and assume the risk that goes with them? when have more people been willing to sue over what are essentially accidents or acts of god? Are these things we would have thought possible even 30 years ago?