Why Are Pro-Abort-Feminists So Angry?

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Isn't that what the mother is doing to her child in womb, her baby?
     
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    Merriam Webster
    Definition of person


    1: HUMAN, INDIVIDUAL
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/person

    The embryo is human and individual. Can a 1 year old baby voice arguments on issues as use of alcohol and medical treatements? A three year old, should they be voting or something?


    You're for it or against it, which are you? If you are against abortion why?
     
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    What I'm opposed to is laws against women.

    I would support other methods of reducing abortion.

    For example, Canada has NO laws against abortion. In fact their hc system pays for it. And, that means FEWER abortions per 1000 pregnancies.

    I think there are reasons for that.

    For example, issues of health care, poverty, etc., come up when asking why individuals have chosen abortion.

    Making this issue all about how many laws to write against women and how harsh we can make those laws is just plain not acceptable.

    And, suggesting if I don't like those laws then I must want abortions is just another garbage argument.
     
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    Why Are Pro-Abort-Feminists So Angry?

    ~ Because they subscribe to the far leftist "progressive" ideology. They have to be angry and self-loathing. It's part of the culture. It is one of the requirements.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    Post the percentages if that is going to be your argument.
     
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    If abortion is OK why?

    Canada is not the United States.


    And the percentage of abortions are due to those reasons is?

    What do you have against abortion?
     
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    CCitizen said:
    My position is that abortion should be legal as no one has a right to impose their Ethics on others."""



    Isn't that what the fetus is doing if it's deemed a legal person, claims it has a right to use another's body to sustain it's life( a right NO ONE ELSE HAS), to the woman it's in?
     
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    I don't have any data on that.

    Pew Research has asked the question of whether abortion should be "legal in all or almost all circumstances" or "illegal or illegal in almost all circumstances"

    Asked that, something like 60 persent respond on the "legal" side.

    That's a significant margin.
    Looking at how policies we might consider have worked out in other countris is important.

    It's a significant way of gaining some insight without just closing our eyes and jumping.
    Assuming that a decision such as that is made in a random manner without thought or reason doesn't make sense to me.

    There ARE organizations who have studied this.
    That's not a simple question as there are a nmber of signifiant factors relating to age, rape/incest, health impact, status of the fetus, and on and on. Also, demanding continued pregnancy while denying prenatal medical coverage is not acceptable.

    Also, some people have significant religious opinion on this, and there is a strong temptation to impose one's religion on others through government force.

    Finally, I'm one person and the way I navigate these many issues can hardly be of interest.


    Our representatives are nowhere near qualified to be involved in what IS a monumentally personal and private decision. Proof is that we've had the US congress pass bills (and signed into law by the president) on abortion that denied the health of the pregnant woman had ANY value - to the point that her death is irrelevant! (This was a law against late term abortion - an issue that is almost totally ficticious to start with.) That got overturned at the Supreme Court, but it demonstrates why congress is NOT qualified to be involved in this decision.

    I'm STONGLY aggainst having government pass laws against women on this issue.
     
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    What a terrible article - written by folks who qualify for prescription pills for psychological issues. Full of nonsensical fallacy - generalizing the traits of all pro-choice women to "Feminazi's"

    and full of the regular lies and disingenuous language of course .. for example .. terms such as "anti life".

    Do not foul your mind with such garbage .. now go and be well. .
     
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    I'm asking you.............if abortion is OK and a good thing why do you care how much of occurs?

    I think we are grown up adults here and don't need other countries telling us what we should be doing on such issues.


    It is you that is alluding to the numbers well then post them if you are going to use them in your argument.

    YOU are here discussing why do dodge the issues?

    You will have to cite the particular law and I know of no one in Congress or anywhere that says in the very rare case that the pregnancy is placing the mothers life in imminent danger there can be no abortion so stop with the strawman.

    And I'm asking you about YOUR view on ABORTION not the laws about abortion but the abortion itself.
     
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    It's not just one baby in the womb it's ALL babies in the womb. Do I have a right to kill someone if they are not presenting an imminent threat to me?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Isn't that what the fetus is doing if it's deemed a legal person, claims it has a right to use another's body to sustain it's life( a right NO ONE ELSE HAS), to the woman it's in?



    I have no idea what that has to do with my post (or anything else)


    No.


    BUT IF they are harming you, you may use whatever it takes to stop the harm.


    A fetus is not a person with rights but IF it was it would have the same restrictions person with rights have.

    Persons are restricted from harming another without their consent.

    If a woman does not consent to the harm the fetus is doing to her, out it goes.
     
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    Aren’t you one of the anti-maskers? You people have shot others because they asked you to wear a mask for 5 minutes in a store, there have been massive armed protests, government buildings have had to be closed, y’all have screamed for months that government cannot force you to wear a mask in public while shopping for a few minutes and you don’t understand how they would be upset that people like you are attempting to force them to carry an unwanted child for nine months even though it may cost them their health, their career, potentially their life and you suddenly cannot understand why they are upset.

    Fascinating
     
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    Are you saying anyone who is Pro-Abortion is a "liberal feminazi"? :no:

    No. Being pro-abortion is being Pro-Life because the woman having an abortion is the only life involved in the decision. Forcing her to give birth and to take on motherhood against her will is what is anti-life.

    "Pro-Lifers" hate life.
     
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