Why are the corona statistics being falsified?

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  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    OK, it's been uncovered that some hospitals have reported only their positive tests to make it appear 100% positive. We've also seen hospitals that HAVE NO ICU reported as "0% ICU capacity". We've seen people who died in motorcycle crashes, but once tested positive, being counted as "covid death." We've also learned of people in the hospital required to get a weekly corona test being counted as a corona case EVERY TIME THEY ARE TESTED.

    I just learned of a woman who was to receive a test, but got tired of waiting in line, and went home without it. She then got a letter stating that she tested positive! Apparently anyone on the list to get a test who didn't actually get it was counted as a positive.

    My question is why? Why does the medical establishment deem it necessary to elevate the number of covid cases/deaths? Possibly, the facts don't justify the reaction?? There is always a reason and we should be demanding an answer.
     
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    you won't get an answer. It's become political and the media pushing an agenda. My daughter who also left the line to get tested, received her email stating that she tested positive. Interesting times these are
     
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    Nursing homes are offering families $1000 to be allowed to put COVID-19 as cause of death, even if it was cancer. The nursing home can get $13,000 extra dollars if the family agrees to it.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wasn't the "only positive results" an issue or laziness/incompetence by the private testing facilities that the receiving hospitals caught and sorted out?
    If a hospital has no ICU they do have zero capacity. Couldn't this be a case of laymen just misunderstanding (or misrepresenting) the raw data?
    Sure there have been reports of mis-categorised victims in both directions. You don't think that happens all the time in a small proportion of normal recorded deaths?
    Every positive (or negative) test will obviously be recorded as such, even for a retest. Again, couldn't this be more an issue with laymen misunderstanding (or misrepresenting) the actual meaning of the statistics?
    I'm sure you've seen a meme cycling the internet about someone leaving the line but getting a positive result through. Have you seen any kind of evidence it actually happened though?

    Human failings? In cases like this, you need a lot more than scatter-gun speculation to shift from incompetence to conspiracy. I'm not even clear how the "medical establishment" would benefit from over-selling the situation. Hospitals are going bust because they're not doing (and thus getting paid for) routine treatment and staff are working harder than ever taking account of all the necessary restrictions and additional safety measures.
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Total. Bullshit.
     
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    I do not believe that happened to your daughter.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why isn't the FBI investigating any of the claims of fraud? This is outright felony theft of public funds.
     
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    that's fine and your choice. It is what happened
     
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    (original)late Banned

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    Anything to avoid the obvious.
     
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    It's almost like the claims are total bullshit...
     
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    I don't believe the hospitals are "going bust." Perhaps some departments that do routine procedures and non-essential surgeries might be having a hard time. But I think the hospitals are basically laughing all the way to the bank. Why? Because they get paid for every single covid test they administer. Not to mention the treatment of everyone who tests positive and believes they then need treatment. I also believe that the hospital/nursing home personnel are loving every minute of not having to deal with visitors/family members. Makes their job lots easier, and I think they will keep it that way as long as possible and forever if they can.

    I have often questioned the existence of corona, and am mostly joking; I suppose it does exist, but I do not believe it exists on the scale that we are being lead to believe. Many left wing politicians would love to see this last a long time and have the entire population fearful because:
    1. They are determined not to allow "Trump's economy" to restart. (It will.)
    2. They don't want Trump to have those rallies! (He will.)
    3. They want to decrease the amount of time Joe Biden has to spend in public. (A wise decision)
    The populace is going along with them, as many are doing better financially without working. Or working-from-home and enjoying that. Or making quite a bit of money on the crisis.

    I think a large part of the strategy to keep this going indefinitely is to elevate the numbers, in order to scare people.
     
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    This is pretty discombobulated. If the test is positive, it's 100% positive. I've never heard of anybody being 90% infected with coronavirus.

    Not showing a reference would make you guilty of spreading fake news.
     
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    How is this possible? I haven't had the test but I've seen the line at our local hospital for people waiting. An employee is usually out there with a clipboard and talking to each driver as they pull up. They then explain the procedure and do it. How would they even know who is waiting in line until they get to the front?
     
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    They have reported the folks who tested positive, but not the ones who tested negative. That way, it looks like everyone who tested was positive. Maybe these are all just "errors", but it seems like an awful lot of "errors."

    My husband had an appointment to have a test. And then we waited in our car in line. They did indeed know who was coming in for a test. The woman I spoke of is located where we are. Possibly, in some cities, anybody can just show up for a test, and in that case, no they would not know who was waiting in line.
     
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    Thanks for sharing that. I can see how that would make sense especially in areas with high populations. I hope his test came back negative!
     
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    It's the Anti-Trumps, they're everywhere

    There is no Corvid Crisis, there is no disease. All the people are being murdered by Chinese spies to MAKE TRUMP LOOK BAD It IS a hoax just like he said.

    Will you sheeple snowflakes ever learn? Trump is NEVER wrong
     
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    That makes no sense. There is not a single chart where 100% of people tested are shown as infected.

    I'm afraid you fell for somebody's wild conspiracy theory.
     
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    Far Northern IL - I was thinking about this lately because I was recently hospitalized for ten days. Later in my hospitalization, I had to walk around. I noticed there was NO other patients on the floor. I asked the physical therapist about this and she confirmed there were no other patients at that particular time. In fact, I only saw one other patient the four days I was mobile. That has to be cutting into their bottom line.
     
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    "Why are the corona statistics being falsified?"

    cause the Trump admin is dishonest, 15 going on zero....

    no one trusts Trump anymore
     
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    It did kind of happen in one area but it seems to have been down to poor reporting and communications between private testing labs, hospitals and the state Heath Department - ****-up rather than conspiracy.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...ital-disputes-100-positive-report/5445139002/
     
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    Some very good questions.

    I think the best answer is that the COVID Hoax is supported by a cult which behaves as such; think of the prior Democrat witch hunts of the last 4 years, and apply that fervor to this latest hoax.

    Cultists gotta cult.
     
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    One way to look at it is falsifying the numbers supports certain narratives. If people knew the amount of people that tested negative, the lack of cases and deaths, the American people would realize the mask mandates are unnecessary, the lockdowns are unnecessary, the social distancing is unnecessary, they would realize the medical community has committed massive infringement on our god given rights.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Yup.
     
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    Wouldn't that mean every government around the world is complicit?
     
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    Oh, well that clears everything up.
     
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