Why are we regulating women, not men?

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Source: https://newrepublic.com/article/153942/criminalization-womens-bodies-conservative-male-power


    If a woman has unprotected sex with 100 men in a year, she can ONLY bring one life (or multiple births from ONE pregnancy).

    If a man has unprotected sex with 100 woman in a year, he can create 100 possible births.

    SO WHY ARE REGULATING WOMEN?
     
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    Because we are regulating abortion, not sexual intercourse.

    If any man uses physical threats or physical force to coerce a woman into getting an abortion (or if any man performs an abortion, for that matter) he should be liable, just like the woman.
     
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    Humbug.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not to try to change the topic, but as has been pointed out in past threads, the man is held responsible for his actions through child support payments.
     
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    Aren’t you? Have you now accepted that sex does not automatically equal pregnancy and consent to sex does not equal consent to pregnancy?
     
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    But not for prevention of pregnancy in the first place
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It really became regulation when Roe v Wade was created out of the Arses of some Justices.
    Prior it was simply not allowed.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abortions in the USA became regulated in 1973 when the Justices created a brand new law. That is a history of 48 years of regulation. What is the big deal merely because TX did it?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, the issue is that pregnancy does not automatically lead to abortion.
    A man who impregnates a woman is given the benefit of the doubt because we do not know that he knew it would automatically lead to abortion.
     
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    BS

    Abortion was common prior...it wasn't invented in 1973 ...LOLOHGAWDLOLOL
     
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    But you are just fine with men using threats and physical force to force a woman to gestate....
     
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    Get with the times man. It's 2021 now. Men can get pregnant now too.
     
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    I think the most concerning is the “snitch clause” in this legislation - tell me would you agree with a law that rewarded someone every time you exceeded the speed limit?
     
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    Yes they can and rather only real thing stopping biological males from carrying a foetus to term is that it would be an unethical procedure. You do not need a uterus to carry a pregnancy to term. In fact the experiments they have done with mice suggest the best point of implantation is the scrotal sac - would make walking difficult though
     
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    You have never read it have you? It revolves around privacy
     
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    Unless he has no money to pay for the support. Men like that do exist in this country.
     
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    And many of those are in jail should the mother decide to pursue the issue
     
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    Have you accepted that sex is the only cause of pregnancy?

    Or are you suggesting that grown women don't understand the cause/effect reality of sex/conception? Entering a lion's den doesn't automatically result in being eaten, but if you enter of your own volition you cannot claim you didn't consent to being eaten - unless you're a small child or an idiot. Which of these are you saying women are?
     
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    You mean via rape? How else could a man force a women to conceive?
     
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    Ease of enforcement. Since I oppose restricting abortion, I'll have to play devils advocate here, but do you think a law that regulated all sex to try and prevent abortion would have any success at all? This attempt to frame laws geared toward abortion reduction as purely 'anti-woman' are incredibly disingenuous. Abortion laws necessarily target women because only women can possibly get an abortion, not because women are the target. Consider this- suppose it were made possible for men to get pregnant. Do you truly believe abortion laws would then be amended to say that its only illegal for women to get abortions?
     
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    judges should flip a coin on that one, if both parents want the child to live with them, and all things are equal, it should be 50% of each gender, if it's not, the court is sexist
     
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    the bible has always favored the rapist, will the right push this next?

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

     
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    So, in your world, woman can be FORCED to bring their (the man and the woman) baby into the world but they should have to go through the trouble of *fighting* to get his financial support?

    If men are so responsible why do we need to MANDATE child support (see graphic - almost 90% are court orders)?

    If men are so responsible why do we need public aid (ie food stamps, housing assistance, food programs at schools, medical assistance)?

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    https://www.verywellfamily.com/us-child-support-statistics-2997994
     
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    I thought that "debtors" prison no longer existed. I know in some states, they can lift your drivers license if you don't pay but then that defeats the purpose since if you cannot drive it limits your ability to work and pay it off.
     
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    What about a man raping a married woman?

    What about a man raping a woman who is not a virgin?

    What about a man who rapes a virgin who is not pledged to be married and it is NOT discovered?

    Rape is still the ONLY crime in which the victim has to PROVE they didn't cause it, want it, or ask for it. And, other women sometimes participate and help ostracize rape victims.

    Human trafficking.

    Great idea. Force a woman to be stuck with her rapist for the rest of his life. That makes a ton of sense.

    Notwithstanding all the other nonsense, these verses prove the Christian bible was written by men.
     

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