Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

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Why Are You Against SSM

  1. Your Religion Says It's Wrong

    5 vote(s)
    19.2%
  2. Same Sex Couples Are Incapable of Genuinely Loving Each Other

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  3. Allowing SSM Will Lead to Allowing Beastiality, Polygamy, Incest, etc.

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  4. Other

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    65.4%
  1. cd8ed

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    That is simply a descriptive item. I have never once had anyone say they were wed in a same-sex marriage. They simply say “I’m married” “this is my husband / wife” and legally that is accurate.

    Feel free to ignore fact and call it whatever you want. Gay people don’t feel threatened by your union or what you call theirs.
     
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    It's not a straw man when you literally said that marriage was a religious construct.
     
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    In the US... BTW, read my signature.
     
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    Same-sex marriage and traditional marriage are separate but equal institutions.
     
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    I read post #2956 per your suggestion and I re-read it and I read it again. The poster did not say one single thing about his personal sex habits as you allege.

    It must be all in your head.
     
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    You keep stating this but cannot prove it

    Legally, this is a false statement

    It is cute you’re basically telling people that their posts are unworthy of a response from you, when you keep making up things like this with no basis in reality and are unable to defend them.
     
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    Either way that wasn't anything in my post that was personal.
     
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    You mince words. Legally they are the same but politically they are different. Just like the Boston Red Sox and the Houston Astros, for examples, are the same legally, they aren't the same politically.:roll:
     
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    Politically they are the same.
     
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    That's not political it's emotional.
     
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    Strawman argument. If you'd paid attention to any of my posts in this thread, you've had gleaned I thought it was a good thing for same-sex couples to have all the legal rights and responsibilities of marriage. Your fallacious claim that same-sex marriage and traditional marriage are exactly alike is the rub of contention for me. Rather, same-sex marriage and traditonal marriage are seperate but equal institutions.
     
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    Legality is all most of us are concerned with. I have no idea what you mean by “politically different”.
     
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    It's funny that you accuse me of a straw man because you make a straw man fallacy right here. I never claimed any such thing. Just that they were legally and politically equal.

    Further there is no separation not legally or politically at least.
     
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    Politics are trying to make the perception that same-sex marriage and traditional marriage are the same substantively while in fact same-sex marriage and traditional marriage are not the same substantively.
     
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    How are they not the same?
     
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    That's culture but politics.
     
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    Yeah just as natural as the birds and the bees,,,,,,or is that the bees and the bees?[​IMG]
     
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    Which are you struggling with, the definition of the word natural or is it the application of it that presents the issue?

    I am not surprised you are posting fake pictures to make your point — but I guess pushing a false narrative is what those professing religious belief do best.

    Such a fragile fraudulent narrative.
     
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    Well homosexuality seems to be natural in humanity despite whatever goofy get up you can find people wearing.
     
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    It might be a photoshopped picture, but why would that be far from the reality you live? You claim it is natural but a picture is worth a thousand words! Can't handle it?
     
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    Natural? Get up? that is a mechanical device to imitate what is natural!
     
  25. Polydectes

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    Well I get into this giant machine that burns fuel to transport me over these unnatural paths that we've spent enormous amounts of money building. Often to go to places that people spend a lot of money to make as unnatural as possible. To buy products from animals who are cultivated in a very unnatural way so that they are cheaper and easier to consume.

    If this creepy contraption our transportation secretary is wearing is some arbitrary threshold what do you live in a cave do you gather berries and Chase down animals and kill them with your bare hands if not you're not living a natural life.

    Humans adaptation to life is that we manipulate the environment so that it isn't natural anymore have you ever thought about a house? Air conditioning heat electric or gas stoves microwaves metal cooking pans none of this is natural, if you use any of this you're just like mayor Pete.

    Seeing you mentioned this absurd contraption being a natural while probably dwelling in a home with AC using vehicles to travel electronic communication devices to communicate. Is rather like Greta thunberg lecturing everybody about using resources while jet sitting around the world or going on pleasure cruises on her family's yacht.
     
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