Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

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Why Are You Against SSM

  1. Your Religion Says It's Wrong

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  2. Same Sex Couples Are Incapable of Genuinely Loving Each Other

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    7.7%
  3. Allowing SSM Will Lead to Allowing Beastiality, Polygamy, Incest, etc.

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  4. Other

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dislike lies. You perpetrate them while claiming you reasonings here are spiritual in nature.

    If you don’t see the disconnect there who am I to step in your way. You might see the folly of them in eternity.

    Homosexuality is natural as per the definition of the word as it occurs in nature. Same sex marriage is marriage and it is the law of the land.

    Facts are superior to any lies you can spew including doctored images to match your doctored religion.

    Can’t handle it?
     
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    Who gets to wear it? You or your significant other?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And Bears often eat their young. I live apart from the animal world. You don't see the disconnect.
     
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    Preferably nobody.
     
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    Already addressed, what is natural is not always correct. That doesn’t change the definition of the word natural however.

    Only one of us is pushing lies here.
    Understandable seeing your narrative.

    Enjoy your fake pictures and false words posted as truth.
     
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    Did I not say the picture might have been photoshopped? You know it is all in the realm of possibility , however among those of you with the sick and twisted logic that your homosexual relationships are equal to that of a husband and wife. What does one do when he takes three months maternity leave to nurse his new child that he did not bear when he has no functioning breasts of his own? No lies here. You're the one calling it "marriage".
     
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    Only after called out on it…

    So you don’t understand what the word natural means or the term paternity leave means either.

    Another lie that he took maternity leave. You are on a roll today.

    And yes, I — along with the United States government, the authorizing entity of the legal contract known as marriage — call it marriage.

    Can’t handle it?
     
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    it's not sick twisted logic it's legal.

    Legally speaking same-sex marriages are equal to opposite sex marriages.

    Spiritually speaking who cares religiously speaking also who cares, culturally speaking doesn't matter.

    But honestly when half of your marriages end in divorce it's not really that sacred now is it.
    That's what the law calls it.

    Laws can change. Why don't you petition the Supreme Court to change it back I wish you luck.
     
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    Of course laws can change. Cultures change. Remember slavery? Prohibition? Laws aren't always right or moral. That's why it is held in question. I would rather the youth begin to understand the perversion than the law being changed this instant. So as a father, grandfather and one who works with kids....that's what we do!
     
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    agreed and a good moral case for why same sex marriage shouldn't be legally equal to opposite sex marriage should be made can you make it?

    Let's hear.
    fair enough. Make some moral case that it's a perversion and that we need to teach kids not to be part of it.

    This will be interesting.
    So you make sure the alienate your kids if they're gay. I'm glad my parents didn't do that.
     
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    Indoctrinate the impressionable children around you to believe your unfounded bigotry? We know, that’s what you have always done.

    Unfortunately for you the internet and knowledge is easily accessible — as people see everything you tell them about gay people is a lie you will just become the trope of bigoted <uncle, father, grandfather>

    It is ironic that you believe gay people are the one indoctrinating children when you openly admit to it.

    Slavery had a victim
    Prohibition took away personal freedom

    You are the one trying to do both of these things, not same sex couples wanting to sign a civil document with their partner.
     
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    Well I would think that telling your kid if they're gay that they're pervert and they're disgusting it would probably be abusive.
     
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    Sign a civil document....just don't equate it with marriage.
     
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    You assume "gay" is a person. No it's a behavior acted out.
     
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    This is just an excuse to be a terrible person. You don't just behave some way there's normally something informing it.

    So when a boy starts being attracted to girls that happens that's real. But you're telling your kids that your love is conditional on that.

    Meaning you don't really love your kids
     
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    Why to pay you lip service?

    Why do you want lip service
     
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    We don’t have to equate it with anything — it IS marriage.

    Who are you to believe you should dictate the rights of others based on your reading of a edited religious book? Should we ban Christian religious worship because Muslims believe it is a false religion?

    You can call it anything but worship, deal?
     
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    I find it very peculiar that these people want lip service.

    Essentially saying they're magical word and it's sacred and you can't use it in a way I don't approve of.

    You can do exactly the same thing in all conceivable ways but you reserve magical words for magical people.

    It's so bizarre.
    You know when car manufacturing in a model with a separate frame when they put that body on the frame they call it marriage.

    I wonder if he objects to the usage of the term and not regard
    What's so funny about this whole thing is these same people get real pissy about words that they're expected to use to describe transgender people.

    You must respect my vernacular but I will not respect yours.

    It's really strange. It's like social justice warrior versus social justice warrior.

    I wonder if he realizes he's engaging in the idea that you can't appropriate to somebody else's culture
     
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    It’s a lie — these same people were instrumental in denying same sex couples civil unions and the ability to sign contracts that replicated the rights of marriage.

    If they were saying from day 1 this is a religious sacrament to us and we simply want the government out of it that would be understandable but this is their last ploy because they have lost the battles they have started.

    It does feel like everyone feels their beliefs are the rule and everyone else’s is irrelevant. I see it on both sides. I think equal rights under the law is all anyone should ask for and then just stay out of everyone else’s business.
     
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    see so it's an incremental thing.
    I'd say they want a few battles but they lost the war.

    It's going to be a hard time getting the Supreme Court to go back on the decision now that 6 years into it God hasn't visited his wrath upon us.
    it seems this attitude is because of weak faith.

    If for instance I was a devout Christian and I thought that marriage was between one man and one woman only well then I would do that in my life. Let the unfaithful be unfaithful. If I abstained from alcohol either because I was a recovering alcoholic or it was against my religion to consume it it would not be in my interest to shut down bars or liquor stores.

    I would have to deal with my temptation with good old-fashioned willpower.

    If these values are so deeply rooted in our culture then they simply won't be undermined even if a few people don't abide by them.

    So really are Christian values the House of cards built upon shifting sand or are they firmly planted built upon bedrock.
     
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    See how far you get with your Gay marriage idea with the Muslims! You might be stepping off a tall building! Funny you should bring that up!
     
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    Right after they behead you and your entire family.
    Strange how you can dismiss their religion as evil while you dodge questions that show yours is.

    In the US, Muslims support same sex marriage over white evangelicals
    https://www.prri.org/research/emerg...findings-from-the-2017-american-values-atlas/

    So your religious bigotry seems to only be matched by your homophobia

    When you find your integrity, feel free to answer: Should we ban Christian religious worship because Muslims believe it is a false religion?
     
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    Delete
     
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    Does it upset you that we're not like Iran?
     
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    I thank God we're not!
     
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