Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

Well how does it do that? Do you really need an exclusive legal status to be the foundation of family structure?

Is it that fragile that weak that breakable?

 

Sure I am, just like those who approve of laws against thievery are placing their belief in the 8th commandment before the possiblity that theivery might be moral in the eyes of many.

Damned if I know, and damned if I care.

Congratulations, I guess.

Sue me.

 

In all fairness the thread is specifically asking people about their beliefs. When you say what you believe that doesn't apply to other people that's assumed because it's what you believe

Believing something doesn't negate other people's beliefs.

 

I understand the importance of marriage for family building the thing I don't understand is why you think that should be exclusive to families of heterosexual couples. Homosexual couples can build families too they do. Me either adopt kids or have kids from previous relationships.

Should those kids be taken away from the parents? Should homosexuals not be allowed to adopt under any circumstance? if you say no to both of those questions why should they be denied the ability to build a family just as strong?

the government defines legal marriage and that's really all this is about since the government doesn't interfere with religious beliefs

But if they're not any different the same thing just give it a different word for lip service.

 

Are you against marriages between widow or divorced moms to their natural son?

 

Yes but you'll have to explain how that's comparable. Gay couples that aren't related to each other aren't the same in my view.

 

Let's all try this exercise first.

Why would a male want to marry a woman? (please do not include homosexuals just now)

 

No idea seems like a stupid idea these days.

 

Comparable to what?

Quickly you defined marriage as not for a particular group. Even though if they marry, it is no skin off your nose. Frankly I too do not approve this but I may be a bigot.

 

Seriously, given the homosexuals always try to make stories up, to wit: why can't they also build a family, my question is why would a male wish to marry a female. It is a base question.

 

During my study of ancient Roman laws, it suddenly dawned on me it is not about the couple, it is about their children and the man wanting to ensure his children would inherit his stuff even if the wife ended up in the care of her own children. If he died of course.

 

My question, so you all understand it is no trap, but it is over marriage.

I understand the war stories homosexuals love to tell, and had a homosexual brother who never wanted to marry anybody. In fact my first wife loved to talk to him. She and he talked about the color of lipstick, womens hair styles and finger nail colors as some subjects. Women truly enjoyed his company.

 

It is as taboo as the homosexual concept of marriage is.

Come to think of it, why can't a gay man marry his brother?

Stop to think They all have the same excuse as all homosexuals I run into on the forum.

 

same-sex marriage.

Yeah Marriage isn't for mother and son. That's a different relationship than two not related people.

I'm not going to call you a bigot because of this.

 

It is not for homosexuals either.

So what is the purpose of marriage?

 

Yes, it seems like a losing proposition for a man marrying a woman without a prenuptial agreement.

I don't know what you mean

again I have no idea why a man would want to do that. Sometimes I feel very fortunate to be gay. Meaning I don't have to hand over the keys to my estate to a woman that can just divorce me and take it.

 

it was taboo 25 years ago, it's passe now.

Why would he, that's his brother, the family tie is already legally recognized.

If all you want to do is be adversarial we don't have to talk about this. I'm more interested in rationalizing my position and hearing you rationalize yours then I am in having a pissing contest to see who can be the most right.

I consider myself a pretty fair person, I'm not going to call you a bigot because of your religious beliefs. Just keep in mind you talking to me not all the other activists clowns.

 

well tell that to the courthouse that signed my marriage license they seem to disagree with you and he seemed to have a lot more authority than you do.

It is to create a tie of affinity to someone you have no relation to.

That's why it's restricted from people who have ties of affinity or sanguinity.

 

What is the purpose of inventing new language?

 

This is going to make it difficult for you to discuss this topic.

SSM means same sex marriage, if you are going to say that it doesn't exist and never can you violate your first point by calling it marriage.

Is it marriage or is it not? And if you say not, why are you calling it marriage?

 

So why do you think two people of the same sex getting married threatens family?

Does that devalue for instance your marriage? Does it devalue your relationship with your parents or siblings or children? If so explain why?

 

The Court actually overruled nature. But like Dred Scott and the ruling vs the Income tax, sooner or later this will be corrected.

I get your explanation yet for the love of a cookie, I do not understand from a legal point what is the purpose of marriage for homosexuals? And you put restrictions when a male marries a female.

 

Homosexuals present no threat and that is not the proper question. Reverse it, what is the gain to homosexuals who agree to snuff out other forms of marriage?

To say the least, when homosexuals say they got married, it is highly irregular. IT is a recent phenomena created by acts of justices rather than the natural order of nature.

In other words, a pair of homosexuals can do anything they want to each other sans marriage. So apparently that is not it, probably perceived benefits under law.

 

I don't know what you mean. What do you mean by war stories?

 

What do you mean by other forms of marriage? I'm not interested in snuffing out traditional Marriage.

So?

Sure those benefits are the legal recognition of affinity