Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

.....I'm giving the horse a break.

 

'Sex as a criteria' doesn't even come into the equation, because it only applies to women.

 

The law and reality aren't always the same. Incest is sex between two blood related people in reality. Depending upon the state, incest can legally mean sex or marriage (even without sex) between two people related by blood or by legal bond (marriage, adoption, etc). Biology is irrelevant to law. How about this? Does a woman lose her right to an abortion if she has a hysterectomy?

 

Does a person lose their right to have sex if they're a quadriplegic?

 

That was rather non sequitur, with a dash of strawman and maybe a pinch on red herring to boot.

 

No more than yours.

 

You understand that additional powers of Congress are enumerated elsewhere in the original Constitution, right?

Yes it does.

Of course it did.

Which contravenes nothing I said, obviously.

 

Them's three descriptive words them educamated folks love to throw around to show us morons and Bible toting deplorables that they have the intellectual as well as moral high ground. Doesn't fool anyone any more.

 

Hold on. Is it:

A: that all women have the right to an abortion?

OR

B: that women have the right to choose?

 

You must have dreamed those times.

 

Are you under the impression that legal marriage started on the day that the US was founded?

 

I'll assume that you mean how is that NOT discrimination based upon our physical sex. Sorry, same-sex marriage was always a gay rights issue, right? Or did I miss something?

Have you seen movie, I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry? In it, there is a character (played by Steve Buscemi) who works for the relevant government entity which registered the two men's partnership. This character is some sort of investigator responsible for finding out if the relationship is genuine. Is that character totally fictional in every state in the US?

As was the case with your wife I believe. Although, wouldn't it happen more often than not with some sort of commitment ceremony in front of family/friends?

 

Does all of the preamble relate to powers of Congress?

 

It only seems that you because you obviously failed to read further back to realize that I am using an example to make a point.

 

When you have the right to something, it includes the ability to choose to exercise it or not. The right to bear arms includes the ability to decide not to bear arms.

 

Good guess. I don't know.if I'm missing the word or this bloody phone/program combo. The curser sometimes bounces around and deletes words.

The gay rights movement is what pushed the issue, but the decision didn't limit the ability to get married to gays. It was same sex. Remember that there is nothing in the law that requires love, sex or children for a legal marriage to occur or continue. So the Chuck and Larry guy who is investigating them is a Hollywood creation and not real. Not having seen the movie in its entirety, I might get details wrong, but IIRC, the investigator was from the company or union, not the government. While I've never heard of such in reality, I can imagine some companies might have considered such right after Obergefell. However such would be quickly rendered illegal since the requirements of love and sex are not part of a legal, in addition to privacy rights. But for another take on this, search for the episode of Boston Legal that deals with the issue of same sex marriage. I don't know exactly which one it is, as it's not a regular show of mine, but I was at my mom's when she had it on and caught it. Basically, Shatner and Spader's characters were getting a legal marriage so that Spader could take care of Shatner, as the later's health failed.

Not always, but yes, quite often it does seem to. Hence why religious and social marriages cannot be dismissed. I didn't have a ceremony when I married my now legal wife. We went super old fashion and simply declared we were married and she moved in. Social marriage. And the same with our other spouses. We also consider it a religious marriage because we believe that the God and Goddess have blessed our Union, but since we are rather eclectic in our religions (Christian couple and Wiccan couple) we've never been before a church or coven cleric.

 

Your failure to put up a real argument doesn't fool anyone either.

 

What God and Godess is that?

 

Did you miss the part where I noted that we we a Christian couple and a Wiccan couple?

 

Oh yeah. So you must believe in each others God then.

 

We don't have to believe in each other's deity to respect their belief, or to live together in marriage. There are plenty of mixed religion marriages out there. Nothing in our beliefs/practices conflict with the other's. Furthermore belief in a Deity does not automatically constitute worship of said deity.

 

There is no power to legislate about marriage. You will have to quote that power to me if you claim that there is.

Legislation cannot "increase States' rights" if the States already had those rights. That is not an increase.

 

We don't have religious marriage in the US, only legal marriage. You would have participated in a ceremony, that is all.

 

You need to just put down the shovel. You can't dig yourself any deeper.

 

No they are part of the written record on this thread. You've seen them yourself.