Why Assad Fights - 96% Arabs Want Genocide Of All Alawites

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A poll was taken in the Arab world on whether all the Alawites should be tortured and killed, and 96.20% said yes...This is why Assad fights. He is an Alawite, and from day one, the protesters who wanted 'democracy', and who we were supporting were chanting: Christians in Beyrout! Alawites in the tomb!

    Assad is fighting for the survival of his people. ..and almost all the Syrians; Sunnis, Shias, Christians, Druze and Alawites are fighting with him.

    The Alawites are a branch of Shia Islam, and unlike other Muslims they were always tolerant of other faiths. Some believe they might have been Christians who were forced to convert. They do drink alcohol, and celebrate both Christian and Muslim feast days. Their main characteristic is that they affirm the superiority of faith over ritual.

    On the 8th of May, the Qatar station Al Jazeera broadcast a debate on why it's necessary to kill and torture all Alawites. It's very interesting.


    [video=youtube;ULtNYSUqYHw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtNYSUqYHw[/video]

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    If this war in Syria were to be viewed in terms of good vs evil, President Assad and Putin are on the side of good, and the US is backing evil.
     
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    "Good" in the middle east is defined in terms of stability.

    A "good" situation is when someone respectable is in charge and they can keep the peace.

    A "bad" situation is one of two things: either

    a. one of the majorities gets control in which case all the minorities get tortured and executed, or
    b. no one gets control in which case the factions slaughter each other to the last man

    The middle east is the cesspool of humanity. The best equilibrium you're going to get there is stability.

    I don't know from good and evil, all I'm going to tell you is our foreign policy establishment is loaded with a bunch of terminally ignorant nitwits if they think they can somehow "bring democracy" to the middle east and accept the outcomes.
     
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    So ironic, and sadly true. I wonder what's going on in the Pentagon these days? What's happening in Syria, Libya and Iraq is not to US interests. Kowtowing to a strengthened Iranian military is NOT in our interests. What's happening?
     
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    Syria has a long history of changing hands during the crusades and so it makes sense that the more tolerant Muslims and mixed populations would live there. It's a shame that the US chose to target that place while letting more illiberal regimes get by.
     
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    Why is it that the majority of the time, US foreign policy is on the side of evil ?
     
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    Yeah, but theyd vote the same to torture and kill Christians.
     
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    Is that particularly important to you?

    If so then why?
     
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    Assad is fighting to keep himself in power, period.
     
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    Do't be ridiculous.

    With his money he could be anywhere living it up.

    He doesn't even look happy in his photos.

    Would you abandon your entire family and country to a bunch of savages?
     
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    Oh well, I guess there's going to be a genocide of Alawites.

    The victors decide what to do, and the Syrian rebels are terrorists anyway.

    But I wonder if this is only the case because Assad is a dictator?

    Well, the USA really knows how to pick our side doesn't it? Yet I wonder if we were just hoping to make things simpler by allowing one side to kill off the others. After they kill off the minorities and they're all dead then that's one way to make peace. No more conflict. :eekeyes:
     
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    Man.

    Those Al Jazeera announcers are worse than FOX.

    The one most virulently against the Alawites seemed most angry about having his electricity shut off to his home. Interestingly, he was also the best groomed. Hmmmm....looks like another privileged sector would like to take over.

    I thought the Christian member held his ground well, albeit with his eyes lowered.
     
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    There is no possible way to "Fix" the middle east, nor should western powers even try to. Thousands of years of constant warfare and hatreds have instilled violence in the populations that will not be going away anytime soon. It seems to me the only viable action would be to get as far away from everything over there....stay home and keep a close eye out for exportation of the mentality.

    This would also give them what they want...no interference from the great Satan.

    When I say NO interference, I mean in any way whatsoever....NO aid, NO military, No food, No help at all. A very good start would be to make it illegal for western corporations to build ANYTHING over there.
     
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    Because they are the ones being ethnically cleansed from the Middle East, and yet they are indigenous to the area...not the Arabs. They are also the most persecuted group in the world... and no one cares, especially the MSM. Last I read three hundred Christians were being killed each day...where is the outrage?
     
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    I agree... we should support Israel 10000% and show them "unless you move towards a true open society like Isreal" you get NOTHING.. maybe that would be enough to get them to change to a more modern approach on the value of life..
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keeping one's eyes lowered is common with people who are or were under persecution. I remember a time that blacks wouldn't look people in the eyes. It was also customary with the Irish.
     
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    Problem is that Israel like the US supports the most aggressive groups in the Middle East...like the Saudis, Qataris, and even Al Queda.
     
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    Assad might have been a dictator before, but not anymore. He was voted in by the majority of the Syrian people in a fair election. Even the majority Sunnis in Syria want him because they don't want to be under Sharia law.

    Kerry said Washington wouldn't recognize Assad as president because Syria was at war...yet at the same time Washington recognized the election in Kiev even though the country was not only at war, and part of the country couldn't vote, but also any candidate that represented the East and South of Ukraine couldn't run because of threats by the Right Sector.



    - 70 to 80 % of the Syrian Arab Army is composd of Sunnis,
    - Since the beginning of the war, more than one third of the victims are members of the army or the security forces, less than two thirds are civilians,
    - The Alawites, in proportion with their number, are the community which has been hit the hardest, among the civilians as well as the military.


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    Assad might have been a dictator before, but not anymore. He was voted in by the majority of the Syrian people in a fair election. Even the majority Sunnis in Syria want him because they don't want to be under Sharia law.

    Kerry said Washington wouldn't recognize Assad as president because Syria was at war...yet at the same time Washington recognized the election in Kiev even though the country was not only at war, and part of the country couldn't vote, but also any candidate that represented the East and South of Ukraine couldn't run because of threats by the Right Sector.



    - 70 to 80 % of the Syrian Arab Army is composd of Sunnis,
    - Since the beginning of the war, more than one third of the victims are members of the army or the security forces, less than two thirds are civilians,
    - The Alawites, in proportion with their number, are the community which has been hit the hardest, among the civilians as well as the military.


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    Israel supports " whoever is not going to attack them".. period...
     
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    This is true. The ONLY reason we are supporting this
    War is because the U.S. Is hooked at the hip
    with Israel.


     
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    I could see that being the case. I think getting rid of Abbas would be a horrific mistake.
     
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    An Israeli think tank, The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), published "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" in 1996. It is a short paper - approximately 2800 words - that offered thoughts on Israeli and U.S. policies on national security and economics.

    The paper's principal author was David Wurmser (then affiliated with IASPS). As he researched the paper, he shared some of his thoughts with a half dozen people, including me, and asked us for our reactions and our own ideas. When IASPS published the paper, it described these individuals as a "study group." The paper says its "main substantive ideas" came from talks in which the study group members participated.

    http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf

    Excerpt

    Securing the Northern Border
    Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American
    can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by
    engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon, including
    by:
    striking Syria’s drug-money and counterfeiting infrastructure in Lebanon, all of which
    focuses on Razi Qanan.
    paralleling Syria’s behavior by establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not
    immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.
    striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at
    select targets in Syria proper.
    Israel also can take this opportunity to remind the world of the nature of the Syrian regime.

    Continued.
     
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    Is it because they're Christian?

    I'd say the outrage is muted because it's not a big deal. And they're foreign.
     
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    because christians will forgive your trespasses against them
     
  25. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Christians are not foreign, they are the original inhabitants of the Near and Middle East. The Patriarchs of Jerusalem, Antioch and Alexandria are still there, and they are the successors of the original bishops...and that goes back to the time of Christ.

    Originally it was all part of the Eastern Roman Empire, (Byzantine). The reason Christians are now a minority is because of persecutions over the years...First by the Arab conquerors and later on the Turks. Yet they did manage to survive, and they did live together until now.
     

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