Why Conservatives Should Not Vote for Rick Perry

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  1. LibertarianFTW

    LibertarianFTW Well-Known Member

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    Rick Perry...

    -Supported a 3 billion dollar medical research center
    -Secured a 300 million dollar business handout
    -Supported a new business tax
    -Set up toll road tax collection booths all over Texas highways
    -Signed an executive order forcing young Texas schoolgirls to get the HPV vaccine, with or without the child's or parents' consent.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUSaNN0LTWk&feature=player_embedded"]Rick Perry slammed by Libertarian Director - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    No doubt Perry has negatives as they all do. If it takes Perry to beat the worst president in the last 100 years, so be it. Perry has many positives also.
     
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    When you run the 2nd most populous State in the union. With a vast diversity of races that dwarfs anything in most states of the Union, compromises have to be made.

    You seriously don't like the idea of a medical research center? We're not talking universal health care here, we're talking about important cutting edge reserach, the kind of research that keeps Americans curing cancer and heart disease and diabetes.

    What was this "300 million dollar business handout" can I see a link?

    What kind of business tax? Republicans support all kinds of elimination of tax deductions, credits, subsidies for businesses and even enacted some in the latest debt ceiling deal.

    Toll roads? You're complaining about toll roads? That's every libertarians dream.

    The last one is rather draconian, but I'd like to see a link because that goes against Roe V Wade and an American's right to the sanctity of their own body.
     
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    Very interesting. Hmmmm.......
     
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    I'd wait for some links and get the whole story first before considering any of this "interesting"
     
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    RINO, the worst kind.


    Southern Religious Conservitive INO

    SRCINO.
     
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    You don't compromise when it comes to constitutional rights.
     
  8. LibertarianFTW

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    You seriously support the idea of wasting $3 billion on a wasteful government program that the private sector could do just as well -- arguably better? Sure $3 billion is a drop in the bucket at the federal level, but we're talking about the state level, here. $3 billion is A LOT of money.

    $400 million -- my apologies.
    Rick Perry gave taxpayer-funded subsidies totaling $408 million to nearly 70 hand-picked companies. Of 50 subsidy contracts reviewed, Texans for Public Justice found that 14 contracts had been amended to reduce the companiesÂ’ obligations by about a third; 6 had been terminated altogether; and 19 were non-performing, troubled or weak. Only 11 companies were performing.
    SOURCE

    Well, obviously not this Republican.
    In 2006 Rick Perry passed an uneven business income tax in the state of Texas. This is in conflict with the Texas state constitution which states you can not have an income tax without a referendum. And for five years he has been able to get away with it. To the detriment of small business and preventing the creation of jobs in our state.
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    Business Taxes in Texas went from 5.8 Billion to 8.7 Billion looking at a two year period.
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    Every libertarian's dream? I would like a link to that. :)

    Worst thing he did by a long shot, in my opinion.
    On February 2, 2007, Perry issued an executive order mandating that Texas girls receive HPV vaccine that protects against some strains of the human papilloma virus, a cause of cervical cancer.[74] The order provided vaccination free of charge to those who were not covered by insurance,[75] and included an opt-out provision for parents. At the time of the order, Gardasil, a newly approved drug manufactured by Merck, was the only HPV vaccine approved by the Food and Drug Administration. The move made national headlines,[76] and apparent financial connections between Merck and Perry were reported by news outlets, such as a $6,000 campaign contribution and Merck's hiring of former Perry Chief of Staff Mike Toomey to handle its Texas lobbying work and Perry's "current chief of staff's mother-in-law, Texas Republican state Rep. Dianne White Delisi [as] state director for Women in Government."[74][77]
    Perry's decision was criticized by some social conservatives and parents due to concerns about possible moral implications of the vaccine and safety concerns. On February 22, 2007, a group of families sued in an attempt to block Perry's executive order.[78] It was also criticized for the price of the vaccine: approximately $360 in Texas.[75]
    In May, 2007, the Texas Legislature passed a bill to undo Perry's executive order. Perry did not veto it, as the Legislature had sufficient time and votes to

    WIKI
     
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    Info on those points are easily found online. They are true.. but they are more (*)(*)(*)(*)ing if investigated.

    Perry has two former senior staff members working in key positions at Merck( the manufacturer of the gardisil. Merck used "contributions" and promises of future employment to secure Perry's executive decision to force the drug on all females not yet 6th graders at $360 taxpayer dollars pop.

    Perry tried to use eminent-domain laws to evict thousands of texans off thier land in order to build a trans-texas NAFTA highway managed by private firms from Spain and Austrailia.. who would pick up the profits while Texans picked up the tab. He did this at the behest of the Bilderberg group.

    This is just the tip of the Iceberg with Globalist pawn Rick Perry who governs over a 25 billion dollar debt in texas..a state with the highest percentage of minimum-wage jobs in the nation and an income disparity ratio between rich and poor that would make Mexican government officials proud.

    If your not a multimillionaire Rick perry isnt your friend.
     
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    I was cursing RINO's before it became "cool". This nauseating RINO behavior within the Republican Party started with Daddy Bush the Elder and it continued with his confused son, "W". It would be great if we could go back to 1988 and do everything over, but that's not possible.

    Which means that we must face this new "reality", even though many parts of it make many of us true Conservatives want to puke! Today there is an enormous bloc of "welfare voters" that didn't exist ten years ago. Today our economy has been turned into a gigantic fraud balloon by the Federal Reserve System, which isn't even a part of our government! Nearly everything is different now, and nearly all of it is worse....

    Perry has been a three-term Governor of Texas, and Texas has fared far better than the rest of the United States during this awful Bush-Obama fiasco we've suffered through since 2006. If Texas were a separate nation, it would be in the top ten of the richest and most powerful countries on earth! Let's at least hear what the man proposes to do as President, and remember, ANYTHING AND ANYONE IS BETTER THAN COMRADE OBAMA!

    I've become so discouraged with this poor country today that I'd welcome Bill Clinton back with open arms and tears of joy in my eyes if it meant that Barack Insane Obama would leave Washington D. C. this afternoon and NEVER return....
     
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    Good post .. thx for posting the truth... even though partisan airheaded cheerleaders will only attempt to discredit the sources of information that doesnt support their ideological tunnelvision.
     
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    I admire your passion... but Rick Perry is just like Obama. It would not be an improvement.. it would be a continuation of Obushma policy.

    Rick Perry has sold out Texas. What he has done to attract business in the short term is going to cost Texans triple fold in the future.

    Only texan that has any business in the White House is Ron Paul.
     
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    Perry / Palin :omg:
     
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    I hope Perry , Palin Bachmann run for President.. but on seperate tickets.. that way they split the idiot vote.

    Too bad Obama doesnt have a clone to run against so as to split the sheeple vote.
     
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    If any government goon try's to come and force me to get a vaccine of any kind I will murder them on the spot. That is a promise.
     
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    Rick Perry is the one behind the boondoggle that was the Trans-Texas Corridor. This system of roads made liberal use of eminent domain and had, as the leading contractor, a foreign company. This corridor was to have been built with private funds in exchange for letting this foreign company extract tolls from the roads. Texas was to have received a 'share' of the tolls for 50 years. The company would have collected tolls in perpetuity. Sound like a model you would endorse for America?

    The Trans-Texas Corridor plan has been killed but has been revived in the Innovative Connectivity in Texas/Vision 2009.

    If you value your property and your sovereignty, Rick Perry should NOT be your choice.

    Here's a couple of links on the issue.

    http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/rep...19505474230808

    http://transtexascorridor.blogspot.com/
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    I was a big fan of Ron Paul before it was "cool", and I even threw my vote away, twice, on Ross Perot, because I despised Daddy Bush the Elder so much for being a RINO. The awful truth is that there's no way Ron Paul is going to be elected by the voters of the USA in 2012.

    It might have been very possible to have seen Ron Paul in the White House forty years ago, but that was before the entrenchment of Welfare State politics and "political correctness", and it was also before the great dumbing-down in our school systems. Today's voter is, in many cases, an abyss of ignorance... a chasm of misguided misinformation!

    I would prefer to see a two-headed, rabid dog in the White House than to have to endure four more years of Comrade Obama! Let's at least hear what Perry proposes to do as President before we refuse to give him support. Please.
     
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    I already know what Rick Perry will do as a President.. the same as he has done to Texas.. use his position to carry out the interests of the highest bidder. Sell out the long term for the short..

    I dont believe that Ron Paul would is unelectable. Just because the media says he is unelectable doesnt make it true... unless we as americans MAKE it true.

    I was Perot fan also.. I penciled in Ron Paul also.. I have never considered those wasted votes.. they were votes that were consistent with the best interests of the United States. Voting for another proven satus-quo politician from either side of the same old coin is a vote against the United States and our future.
     
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    Perry/Coburn NOW MORE THAN EVER
     
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    Name any job PERRY has held in the private sector since becoming an adult.

    And you call ROMNEY a RINO ?
    Flipper flopper ?
    Or saying anything to any crowd ??

    Give him ( Perry ) a couple of months to blow it.
     
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    I cant say I like plutocrat Romney... but I would cast my vote for him before I would vote for Perry.
     
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    All the tea party folks in a tizzy..
    Where does Texas rank nationally in many areas...?

    ROMNEY will tear Perry a new (a ) hole in any debate over this Historical evidence.

    Obama will do the same...

    The CANNOT ATTACK ROMNEY in the same manner..it would kill the swing independent vote.
     
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    I'm not a "partisan airheaded cheerleader". I live thousands of miles away from Texas. I know very little of Perry's tenure as Governor. What I have read about the man so far has shown him to be a better fiscal conservative than Romney, but I'm starting to rethink that after reading this truth, especially if he's engaging in crony capitalism where many companies went "bankrupt" and engaging in forced immunizations. Although HPV is a scourge upon our society.

    As far as the medical center goes. I still support it. You can't have enough research centers, although 3 billion is pretty expensive but honestly, usually these things are never funded as fully as they promise. They'll probably get half of that or a little more and I'm sure Obama probably kicked in more than a few hundred million to help out. That's right up his alley.
     
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    I understand that things were not perfect in Texas, and still aren't. I sold a piece of property I owned in Williamson County, Texas because the hyperlibs in the local school district jacked property taxes up into the stratosphere -- but Perry takes credit for lowering taxes?! What really happened is that Perry was successful in lowering property taxes... but then the school bureaucracies came along a year later and changed the values! AH HA! Take it from a former Texas property owner -- there is always a socialist "poison" to ruin every good thing a Conservative tries to do....

    As for Ron Paul... hey, I love the guy, but when he blurts out weird crap like, "Hey, it's none of our business if they have nuclear weapons...", he alienates EVERYBODY! I don't know of even the biggest crackpot hyperlibs in this country who support the idea of a bunch of Iranian Islamo-terrorists having nuclear weapons! How many votes do you think that would attract?

    Again, to the point, we've got to get rid of Presidonk Jive-Ass! If we don't, our nation and its Constitution will functionally cease to exist as a constitutional republic by the time his regime finally comes to an end. I'll take a Rick Perry, a Michelle Bachmann, a Mitt Romney, some other Democrat, or a two-headed dog over four more years of Obama. THAT is what we must have front-and-center in our minds going into 2012....
     
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    Maybe someone can explain to me the objection to the HPV law. It's not a personal privacy issue. It's not a parental rights issue. It's a public health issue.

    Besides the fact that it will save a lot of lives (oh how terrible), what makes this any different from requiring polio, measles or mumps vaccines so that the parents of children in schools (at the very least) don't have to worry about these diseases being spread around at school?

    I'm obviously not the kind of person who is going to support Perry, but I for the life of me can't figure out what the problem is here.
     

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