Why did Al Qaeda foolishly attack us on 9-11?

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  1. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    I have seen several informative programs about why Al Qaeda attacked us on 9-11. If you have other ideas on why these attacks happened and why Al Qaeda did what they did I would love to her them!

    First of all, they resent very much our support of Israel. Second, they resented at the time our support of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda's leaders often referred to Israel as America's "aircraft carrier" in the Middle East.

    Third and probably most important, they thought the American people and their leaders were weak. They actually believed if they hit us hard and dealt us a fatal blow, we would withdraw our influence from the Middle East and turn tail and run. With us gone and the British gone under other circumstances many years earlier, Al Qaeda would work with the Muslim Brotherhood to establish Islamofascist states throughout the Middle East and restore Islam to its once former glory.

     
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    Ya, you couldn't be any further from the truth. Osama Bin Laden and the rest of the high ranking operatives in Al Qaeda counted on a strong response from America, and the Bush administration played right in their hands.

    Do you honestly think Bin Laden spent a decade fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, only to see the collapse of the Soviet Union, and not learn anything from it?

    Oh ya, how long have we been in Afghanistan now?
     
  3. James Cessna

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    You are very mistaken, Bluespade.

    I notice you never include any reliable sources to back up your assertions.

    Is that the best you can do?

    Sources?

    Without reliable sources, these comments are mere speculation and unsupported conclusions on your part!
     
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    And resented our involvement in kicking Saddam out of Kuwait and the Saudi's buddying up to us and letting us stage from their country. UBL also wanted to raise his own prestige in the region and that of al Qaeda to become a more prominent force in the middle east.

    Yes, after the weak responses from the Clinton Administration he was betting we didn't have the will to stay and maintain our presence in the regions nor carry out our policies there. He misjudged Bush.
     
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    No he misjudged it but can't blame him after weak Clinton responses. He then misjudge Iraq when he decided to take the war against al Qaeda to Iraq and tried to defeat us there. A HUGE strategic mistake on their part.
     
  6. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    You are very correct, Bluesguy.

    This other fellow is very good at inventing revisionist history!

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  7. Bluespade

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    No, actually I'm not mistaken. And oh ya, your whole thread is based on assertions. But nice try.
     
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    Getting way too technical here. They did it because they are ignorant towel-headed-pukes who only find meaning by being able to kill others. So they planned this big scheme to do just that. It is all that motivates these small-minded scum. They can't possibly achieve credibility any other way. So they find meaning in creating the notion that to kill those not like them is virtuous, and so they do it.

    It is one thing to be competent in achieving the improvement of tomorrow and the folks who will live it. It is quite another to be competent in achieving stupidity. These towel-headed Muslim debris know only the latter competence. Look all over the current Arab world. They are almost as Neanderthals compared to European and Asian stock.

    Killing others is the only thing they can easily achieve, and so they do it.
     
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    They hate America and they hate freedom and capitalism. They attacked our greatest icon of capitalism, the World Trade Center. Muslims will not stop here as we know with attacks across the world. They hate anyone who is not Muslim and they even hate other Muslims not in their sect. They are barbarians who live in the 17th century.
     
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    Short answer. They kill because they are stupid ignorant scum. My dog is smarter than the average jihadist. <spit>
     
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    Actually, you are wrong just like the person who started this thread, and has absolutely no clue about world events surrounding the 9/11 attacks.

    Iraq was not a huge strategic defeat for Al Qaeda. Their aim of having a spring board to jump into Jordan was not accomplished, they also were eventually rebuffed by Sunni tribesman, but they did watch us poor billions of dollars into Iraq, along with stressing our military. Oh ya, they also managed to start a sectarian conflict.

    You think they're not going to try and step back in to fill the void once we leave?
     
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    To send the US to fight unwinnable wars that would bankrupt the country similarly to way the resistance in Afghanistan successfully bled Russia into insolvency.
     
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    Al Qaeda Despised Saddam Huessien.. he was a godless whore in thier eyes.. a puppet and a creation of western corruption. Iran is equally happy Iraq is destroyed as a military power .. they were enemies. Besides not living to see the contunuing destruction of the U.S.. I think Osama got just what he aimed for. So did Dick Cheney and his oil buddies
     
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    By the time we leave we will have been there for more than a generation. The children will not give in to the radicals after the taste of freedom. They can see what it is to live in the sun instead of the shadows, afraid to speak.
     
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    They probably expected the West to bust into Afghanistan more and then follow them into Pakistan. I bet they wanted Pakistan to become seen as a religious war but didnt expect the US has more experience in these things then the USSR did and so rightly fixated a new center of gravity nearby as a precursor for any escalation whomever might have started it. Remember the Taliban ended up making its own push when they realized it wasnt going to happen, almost reaching the capital of Pakistan but since the US had been trying to respect the borders (at least in regards to conventional operations) the nation of Pakistan saw the Taliban as the threat that it really was.
     
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    Thats what we thought the first time around.. too bad the radicals dont play by our rules . Just look at the corrupt farce of a government that the U.S installed in Afghanistan. Karzai.. man 80% of afghanistan hates his ass.. We leave he goes off on the first jet plane outta there. We are trying to install a centralized puppet government in a tribal territory tha barely qualifies for nationhood. Its an exercise in pissing in the wind.
     
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    Bingo! Let the cards play out and deal with the aftermath. It's obviously not somehting you can predict with too much certainty. Just the grand sweeps.
     
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    You honestly think Iraqis are getting a taste of freedom now? Wow.
     
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    That's like asking: Q "Why does a rabid dog attack people?" A It's a rabid dog is the only answer -understanding the biochemical process of rabies isn't going to keep a rabid dog from attacking you though.
    or "Why did Hitler hate Jews and want to take over Europe?" Normal people cannot understand that stuff and logic does not apply to those questions.

    That being said It makes no sense for our enemies to continue though without stating something beyond "The West is Satan" imo. That's the only way to abuse their religion and take power over their subjects is by declaring we are not human, we are Satan. We generally don't think people who believe differently than us are Satanic that value comes from being able to learn of other cultures in the US and being taught in school in the United States.

    These people do not have that advantage of living in the ways of possessing freedom of religion like "Respect one Another" "Find Common Ground" or "Seek Understanding". I have no idea what life is like in their world that it produces such radical ideas, unhappiness and desperation.
     
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    Not really. In this case we know how the dog got rabies.. we knew it had rabies.. but we found we could manipulate the dog to attack our enemies and exploited that relationship.. making the dog stronger and putting a spiked collar on it, foolishly thinking a rabid dog would never turn on us..
     
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    Nice analogy. Your point will fall on deaf ears though, apparently people like the fox versions of events better. It makes them feel warm and squishy on the inside.
     
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    There was nothing foolish about the attack. They accomplished their goal, and made American intelligence look stupid in the process. The fact that the Bush administration got stuck in two military quagmires, spent over a trillion US dollars which almost bankrupted the country, and never caught Osama Bin Laden is a testament to how monumentally screwed up the Bush administration handled the wars, Iran, the pre-9/11 intelligence, and the decade of war that followed.
     
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    Even though your points are correct, you seem to conveniently forget that the Clinton administration fumbling of clear and present threats by Al Qaeda prior to Bush getting into office. But hey, the partisan version is allot better huh?
     
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    The Clinton administration actually went after Al Qaeda right up to the end of the administration. The Bush administration ignored Al Qaeda completely, and demoted or removed Clinton's Counter-terrorism Security Group when they took office.

    So while Clinton tried and failed to get Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda, Bush didn't do anything about them for 8.5 months leading up to the attacks.
     
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    Bye. Again.
     

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