Why didn’t god save Notre Dame?

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  1. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why didn’t god save Notre Dame?

    I suppose there will be lots of excuses for why god did not save Notre Dame
    Lots of excuses why he did not empower the fire fighters to extinguish the blaze.
    Lots of excuses why god did not answer the many payers that surely must have been offered to him.

    But as far as i can tell, an all powerful god must certainly have decided to let Notre Dame burn. And if he will let Notre Dame burn... what is the point of any prayer? What reliance can we have in the god who ignored prayers to save even this holy place?

    In human terms... if we claim to understand god... we could have some reasonable hope on this topic. But clearly our hopes and prayers were misplaced. Clearly we do not understand god as our religious leaders suggest that we do.

    If we do not understand god concerning his willingness to respond to prayers about saving this holy place..... how can we be absolutely certain about god’s thought processes about anything else? How Can we be so very very sure how god feels about topics such as abortion or homosexuality when god does not do what we would think as obvious—-protecting Notre Dame
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For the same reason he didn't save the Jewish Temple.

    How many real Christians are left in France today? Even the bishops and those in charge of the cathedrals are almost atheists.
     
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    Why didn’t god save Notre Dame?

    She was busy.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems every Christian denies the Christianity of every other Christian, which begs the question.....are there actually any Christians to Christians?
     
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    Maybe you don't understand god as well as you think you do.
     
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    You might be onto something, God doesn't care about buildings, He cares about human hearts, and the hearts of men and women in France are far from God. God destroyed the Temple twice because of the apostasy of his people, and those buildings were also full of magnificent art, precious metals and historical artifacts.
     
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    Isn't it obvious.

    God did.

    The renovations weren't being done right.

    Now they have some real money to do it right.

    God rocks....
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dayum….Yer God is a dlck.
     
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    The post you're responding to mentioned non-Christians, 63% of people in France are non-religious, so take their word for it.
     
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    So what did americans do to deserve 9/11?
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What reason causes you to believe that you or anyone else understands god
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how many christians must a country have for god to care about them?
     
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    I never claimed to understand God. I said that maybe you don't understand God as well as you think.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gays, Abortion, Atheism, Fornication, Coffee or Alcohol.....pick one.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know i do not understand god
    I only have conjecture based upon what i hear from people who do claim to understand god
    I am trying to figure out which of these people are reliable guides to gods thinking and actions
     
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    Why are you seeking a reliable guide?
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dont you think a reliable guide to gods thinking would be a good thing. For instances, ,a reliable guide to gods thinking might clarify why he seems not to answer prayers concerning notre dame. A reliable guide might clarify gods thinking on different religions, or our sex habits
     
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    All while declaring that only the individual can know if they are a Christian. That it cannot be determined by others.

    Hilarious and bald-faced contradiction!
     
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    Because he knows the timbers are 850 years old and need replacing before the ceiling collapse's
    He had to light a fire under the lazy humans.
     
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    Actually....verification.
     
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    God does not have to dance to your tune, and you don't have to throw a fit!
     
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    Why are you concerned with God's thinking when you don't even believe in God?
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I take your point in that, for example, i do not know or care what hindus or buddhists believe.... but they live elsewhere, and their beliefs have no impact on me.

    I live here in the usa. I am surrounded by people who claim this nation was founded and should be governed on “godly” principles. There are lots of influential people who think our foreign policy in the middle east must be informed by the will of god. There are lots of people who think school curriculum must be shaped by gods truth.,,, we need to teach that the world scientific creationism, evolution could not be true according to god, etc

    All this is no different in character from the many people who post about islam. You see, if muslims kept to themselves like hindus... likely none of us would care about jihadism, sharia law, etc. But in fact, muslims and their beliefs DO IMPACT US differently than hindu beliefs,,. So we care. Likewise christian beliefs DO IMPACT me in ways that hindu and buddhist beliefs do not. So I would like some authoritative source as a basis of discussion that do impact me so that i care
     
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    take your point in that, for example, i do not know or care what hindus or buddhists believe.... but they live elsewhere, and their beliefs have no impact on me.

    I live here in the usa. I am surrounded by people who claim this nation was founded and should be governed on “godly” principles. There are lots of influential people who think our foreign policy in the middle east must be informed by the will of god. There are lots of people who think school curriculum must be shaped by gods truth.,,, we need to teach that the world scientific creationism, evolution could not be true according to god, etc

    All this is no different in character from the many people who post about islam. You see, if muslims kept to themselves like hindus... likely none of us would care about jihadism, sharia law, etc. But in fact, muslims and their beliefs DO IMPACT US differently than hindu beliefs,,. So we care. Likewise christian beliefs DO IMPACT me in ways that hindu and buddhist beliefs do not. So I would like some authoritative source as a basis of discussion that do impact me so that i care
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is interesting that the common response is that i should not care about god. Would that were the common attitude of religionists when it comes to setting government policy. There was a time when we all agreed about the separation of church and state. Maybe we should go back to that arrangement so that we non-religionists can “not care” about god
     
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