Why do blacks commit so many murders?

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    We are all descended from slaves at one time, or another, so show your research. When has being enslaved resulted in multi-generational high violent crime rates
     
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    black Americans have a 400 year legacy of slavery, with families being torn apart on a routine basis.

    name another group in the USA that has such a legacy.
     
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    No, you can't limit this to the USA. Dirt is dirt. You have an idea, so do your research and get back to us with similar instances of races that have been enslaved, yet despite a century of no enslavement never managed to quite get back into the thick of it.
     
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    slavery was replaced with massive institutionalized racism.

    tens of millions of good manufacturing jobs were given to non-English speaking immigrants from Europe, rather than English-speaking children of slaves in the USA.

    this was coupled with massive segregation...by choice, by millions of employers, schools, housing units, etc.
     
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    Ahh, massive institutionalized segregation like what happened in south africa? Care to look at the results of that? Just a few decades since apartheid was repealed.

    Care to go over the violent crime rates?
     
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    the post-Apartheid regime is full of corruption and crony-capitalism, and failed miserably to engage in land redistribution.
     
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    unable to grasp the essence of barely 2 lines huh? makes sense tbh
     
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    Interesting fact: many African nations and black countries have a lower murder rate than the USA and other Western nations.

    these include: Malawi, Sierra Leone, Martinique, Senegal, Liberia.
     
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    Yeah, well we aren't talking about excuses that aren't about being enslaved centuries ago, are we? We're talking about murder rates among blacks, and now they have either risen or dipped beneath the point of even bothering to count them.

    Care to hazard a guess how things relating to murder among blacks have gone since the end of apartheid?
     
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    care to explain why several black nations have a lower murder rate than the USA?
     
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    most are higher. explain
     
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    This doesn't really bode well for those that say the melting pot theory of multiculturalism is particularly compelling.

    Perhaps the whole idea of having a bunch of different cultures intermingling with each other doesn't produce harmony and understanding, but rather hatred and violence.

    Are you, perhaps, arguing that this melting pot society hasn't produced results that are as favorable as those that are less than diversified?
     
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    After the mafia was smashed black gangs replaced them as the largest organised crime syndicates in the US, previously they had worked under the mafia as associates and some political groups that funded themselves with robberies and such (typical of radical left groups) that eventually shifted towards crime full time, as is the case with some Irish crime syndicates. Organised crime involving other ethnic groups isn't less common, but they happen to be less bloody enterprises for a variety of reasons. One is that policy makers and law enforcement tolerates things like drive-by shootings, which weren't on in Little Italy or whatever. Another is a culture of cavalier violence that was also typical of the mafia, though the mob developed sorts of checks and balances to prevent constant gangland war.

    It's important to remember that you're talking about a very small portion of the African-American population, they don't represent the wider community any more than organised crime from other ethnic groups: organised crime is typical in all low income communities, whether the inhabitants Italian, Chinese, Greek, Irish or Anglo-American. Go back thirty years and it's the Italian Mafia that were the big threat, but they were dealt with, and this will probably be dealt with too eventually. Murder isn't typical in these communities, and crime is a feature of Western society.
     
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    Any difference in crime rate is a difference in how the state functions. An African nation can have a lower or higher crime rate than a Western nation, and a black community in the US can have a lower or higher crime rate than a white one. The fact that the state deals more effectively with crime in white communities for the most part only proves that the system is racist.

    They weren't saying that blacks are more peaceful than whites or whatever, they're saying skin colour has nothing to do with crime, which should be obvious to you.
     
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    Because crime is an inherently feature of large cities under Capitalism?
     
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    BS. Approx. 25% of the current Black population are felons. Get real.
     
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    if you look at the murder rate in african countries compared to white countries you will see there is an obvious difference.
     
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    lmao are they murderers? They're probs in there for fighting or selling weed or some silly thing.
     
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    Um, nobody is saying there is no statistical difference, it's that there is no inherent difference between black people and white people. Crime rates are different under different governments, it isn't a reflection of the people who live under the system. Like the US has a higher crime rate then Norway, are Norwegians simply better than Americans? There are black communities that have lower crime rates than some white communities.
     
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    everything under the sun actually. if you look at the fbi crime statistics they are at least twice the amount of their portion of the population in every category. when it comes to murder and robbery they do more than the largest race in the country and they are less than 13% of the population.
     
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    it certainly is here in the united states where blacks and whites live under the same government.
    ok show me one example in the united states where a black community has a lower crime rate than a white one.
     
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    Take the Blacks & Hispanics out of the equation in the US and our murder rate is = to Belgium.
     
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    yeah, selling drugs. hence our BS and racist drug laws
     
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    corrupt politics and economics
     
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    In 95% of every country and community they call home and it's not a trademark of there race? At what point do you get fed up with the taste of your own bs? Never?
    Wait let me guess... it's white people running their countries?
     

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