Why do criminals in other countries obey gun laws?

I mean there are many countries that have much lower gun crime rates than the US. So it seems very few criminals are obtaining guns and using them in the commission of crimes in those countries.

It seems like the gun lobby in the US likes to make sure that there are plenty of loopholes in gun laws so criminals can easily circumvent those laws and then the gun lobby can claim, "See! Gun control doesn't work! I told you so!"

 

"Gun crime" isn't the only kind of crime we need to worry about. Just like when you scream "gun death" when armed home invaders get shot dead by a home owner.

 

In a word, they don't. Remember the Paris attacks?

 

The Paris attacks are the exception that proves the rule

 

Other countries actually enforce their firearm-related restrictions. The united states does not, except in very rare instances. It has been shown numerous times that the majority of all firearm-related charges are never prosecuted, and are routinely dropped by prosecutors who achieve convictions via plea bargains on reduced charges. Such is not how things are done in foreign nations.

 

How?

 

What that expression means is that when a very rare event happens somewhere it is even bigger news because it is so rare. It is so rare because France has effective gun control

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ances-real-gun-problem/?utm_term=.71daf2f25b2

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/15/paris-attacks-highlight-frances-gun-control-problems

 

You are far safer in France than in many parts of the US

 

There are dangerous places in most any county.

https://www.thetoptens.com/most-dangerous-cities-europe/marseille-france-551937.asp

In Ireland, certain cities like Belfast (where I was raised) are considered dangerous, but others like Lugan have become dangerous. You don't want be walking in the after Midnight hours along the Liffey in Dublin after midnight. Limerich's nickname among the Irish is Stab City. In some areas of the EU have sprung, No Go Areas where even the police do not patrol.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/hundreds-muslim-no-go-zones-take-root-europe/

The police don't patrol in my old neighborhood and really haven't since the late 60's.

Interesting thing in Belfast, or Lugan is, that the chance an American will suffer violence is very small so most will perceive it as safe...if you are Irish on the other hand...

 

That's nice. In general first world countries with strict gun control are safer than the US

 

Sure, since you have the French military deployed all over the country now.

I wonder why.

 

Well a lot of firearms offences aren’t committed by the kind of people you’re thinking of; career criminals actively looking to use firearms as a tool in their crimes. Many are committed by otherwise law-abiding (as much as any of us are) citizens who might even legally possess the gun but end up using it negligently, in anger or some other extreme situation.

Gun control laws don’t only directly prospective gun owners (legitimate or not) and they tend to run along with different gun cultures. Even if private possession of firearms was as open in the UK as it is in the US, we’d still have a much lower rate of gun ownership. We just don’t have the same gun culture regardless of the law. That all combines to mean that there are many fewer guns in general circulation for criminals to redirect in to their hands. It’s also hard for them to store and move guns around outside actual acts of crime because it would attract more attention and questions.

The other element would be laws around the use of guns in crime. Just having an imitation firearm during a crime here significantly pushes up the seriousness of the crime and potential punishment (and, incidentally, is counted as a gun crime in our statistics) so criminals here are only going to risk bringing guns, let alone real ones, in to the matter if they really need them. On that note, because so few citizens and police officers here are armed, petty criminals are less likely to feel the need to be armed to “compete”.

 

No way. The pendulum would swing rapidly the other way as the society is not used to having that access. The crims would overestimate their usefulness and shoot them everywhere, and then the public would over-reacte and fire at any threat.

So until people got used to them being around there would be more firearms and firings per capita.

 

Hello, french here. You didn't heard about a lot of attacks were the attackers got only machete or knife and were dealt more easily. Unfortunately, they were often still one or two victims.
Most terrorist who got guns were formerly in drug dealing and got access to guns.

Furthermore, the fact a lot of terrorist got guns is deeply linked with europe. When former soviets countries were integrated to the EU, a lot of unwatched borders and ex weapons of the former USSR could travel without control. Some criminals could have guns before the shengen zone, but the guns were way more expensive and heavy guns like AK-47 extremly rare.

Today, their is a lot of AK 47 in France, greatly because of the EU. Before the EU, they were problems of guns, but they were way more limitated to hunting guns and low caliber weapons.

 

We could do the same with our military if we did not send them all over the world to make us more enemies

 

No actually, we couldn't.

 

They don't. It's almost impossible to own guns legally in Mexico, for example. The Mexican drug gangs buy guns from their military.

 

More than we currently have, not more than in the US. You under estimate the scale of the cultural mind-set difference we’re talking about here.

 

LOL, they wouldn't be criminals if they obeyed the laws in other countries. What a hoot!

 

Why do criminals in other countries obey gun laws?

They don't.

 

More unsupportable nonsense.

 

I remember movies where the WW 1 soldiers were discussing whether they rather be shot or stabbed.

The worst areas in the world are generally more dangerous than the statistics tell. The less police presence in bad areas, the less crime is reported.

I believe in Belfast the murder rate is 1/100,000---not that bad.
But in other places with extreme gun control, like Mexico---we don't even know how many tens of thousands are being murdered there. Lots of holes in the desert.

Basically, the gun control disciples can parrot the crime stats in developed Western and Asian nations.

No one can accurately gauge the violence in most of Africa, Central America and the wilds of Asia. When someone in Togo get killed and dragged into the Bush----there is no police report, no CSI investigations and no government reporting.

 

Most countries with strict firearms laws have less gun crime than the US, but you need to compare all crimes, not just guns. Most of those other countries have higher rates of assault, rape, robberies, and home invasions than the US. Why you ask, because they don't have to worry about getting shot.

 

Maybe you're right. Lets not find out, eh?