Why do gays hate Ronald Reagan so much?

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    You weren't in California when he defunded *Socialized Medicine* and mentally ill people flooded the streets for one ...
     
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    Complete BULLCRAP. The release of Californina's mental patients was the "brainchild" of Leftninny numbskull psychiatrists, legislators, etc., who deemed keeping non violent mental health patients locked up was "abusing their rights"..:


    Dr. Robert H. Felix, who was then director of the National Institute of Mental Health and a major figure in the shift to community centers, says now on reflection: ''Many of those patients who left the state hospitals never should have done so. We psychiatrists saw too much of the old snake pit, saw too many people who shouldn't have been there and we overreacted. The result is not what we intended, and perhaps we didn't ask the questions that should have been asked when developing a new concept, but psychiatrists are human, too, and we tried our (*)(*)(*)(*)edest.''

    Dr. John A. Talbott, president of the American Psychiatric Association, said, ''The psychiatrists involved in the policy making at that time certainly oversold community treatment, and our credibility today is probably damaged because of it.'' He said the policies ''were based partly on wishful thinking, partly on the enormousness of the problem and the lack of a silver bullet to resolve it, then as now.''


    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all

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    Which has what to do with Barbara Streisand blaming her son's AIDS death on Reagan, which was the start of the Gay Guevara Hate Reagan campaign?
     
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    If you weren't there you don't know ... after mentally ill people beat robbed raped and murdered ... California had to reboot it's *Socialized Medicine* programs at the cost of billions ...

    ... this is how conservatives think to this day ... create problems to solve.
     
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    You have shown nothing to indicate gays hate Reagan. Yes, they do lean way Left, because the Left has been courting them for years.
     
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    I was there, I DO KNOW; it was the result of CIVIL LIBERTARIANS< who "knew best" what was best for the mentally ill.

    Reagan said "they went too far", from the gitgo.

    This is how Leftninnies think today, screw up royally,and then blame conservatives.
     
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    So sad, seeing people fall for this attempt to rewrite history. After all, if people accurately knew history, they'd be liberals.

    The referenced article talks about a proposed spending increase in 1988.

    Now, what year did Reagan take office? Last I checked, it was 1981.

    So what happend in 81-87? Reagan did jack about AIDS, that's what. He only relented for 88 after a massive public outcry. This is detailed in the book "And the Band Played On", a work that anyone with knowledge on the issue would be familiar with.

    So, you guys owe gays an apology. They told the truth, while you repeated the big lie. You can be excused for being fooled, so long as you admit you screwed up and denounce the source that misled you. But if you choose to double down on the big lie, it would prove, according to way2convey standards, that you're an inane pervert, opposed to anyone with morals.
     
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    What did gays "do about AIDS"? Cease the rampant promiscuity? Practice universal safe sex?

    What "funding" could have made THOSE TWO THINGS HAPPEN? Things that would have SAVED MORE LIVES than ANY POSSIBLE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.

    Even today, DECADES LATER, GAY MALES have the HIGHEST RATE OF STDs of ALL TYPES (except chlamydia), of any DEMOGRAPHIC.

    And, as always, the UNAVOIDABLE RESULTS of their OWN CHOICES, are always "someone else's fault"...

    More like GAYS OWE US AN "APOLOGY"... as the BEHAVIOR OF GAY MALES is the NUMBER ONE REASON for the SPREAD OF AIDS in AMERICA.
     
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    There were several suggestions that the CDC had, including having the White House issue a notification of an epidemic with "correlation" relating to sex. Because correlation is not causation, they kept holding back and holding back until it finally got out of hand.
     
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    Please. Gay men knew that there was a serious, potentially deadly infection circulating among them,as early as 1980.

    Did they CLOSE THE BATH HOUSES? Stop having sex with multiple TOTAL STRANGERS? Start practicing SAFE SEX?

    Hell no. The behavior(s) of gay males made it an EPIDEMIC, which NO ACTION of the GOVERNMENT , other than QUARANTINE, could have stifled.

    Even today, the high-risk behavior continues...
     
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    Heh...even today you can find sites like "barebackjack' which ACTIVELY PROMOTE unprotected gay sex. If anyones getting AIDS in America these days, the majority of them deserve it...it aint about education anymore. To steal a phrase form a comedian I cannot recall..."if you stick your dick in (*)(*)(*)(*), you're going to catch something". Common sense and funny at the same time.
     
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    That's pretty much the same thing that happened when the APA took homosexuality off their list of mental illnesses in 1973. Mentally ill (gay) people hit the streets, empowered by their false impression that they were suddenly normal people like everybody else, and suddenly felt that their sick behavior and lifestyle needed to be protected by the same civil rights afforded to colored people and women. But AIDS became Mother Nature's Great Equalizer...
     
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    Yes all the millions of straight people who died of AIDS were also victims of Reagan ...
     
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    Guys, make all the sick and deranged anti-gay rants you want. Normal people will get kind of nauseous reading them, but it's your right to post them. And it doesn't change that Reagan pretty much ignored AIDS for his first 7 years. Or that you'll go unhinged with rage whenever someone corrects one of the constant stream of lies you're getting fed.
     
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    Ronald Reagan ,? is that the SAME ,Ronald reagan that gave us 911,when he and the CIA,trained the taliban ,OBL,and Alqada ,financed them and armed them ,well done are we talking about the b-rate dementia Patient as president Ronny Reagan .

    Repeat after me ,COMMUNISM died in 1991 ,Communism Died in 1991,Reagan brain wash.ROFL!
     
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    1986 More than 38,000 cases of AIDS have been reported from 85 countries.

    At the same time 4000 children die from dirty water a day.

    Just to put things in perspective.
     
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    Still dying by their millions ,if the truth be told .As AIDS is medically a curable sydrome,effectively no human that can take the drug Travada,need die from Aids ,why hasn't the WHO ,World Health organisation ,announced that a "pill a day keeps AIDS away"to the H as in Human not homosexual comunnity .


    maybe vested intrests and money is involved .


    But from a medical prespective no human need die anymore from AIDS .its 2012 not 1982 after all.gee, and when the Moralisist crap arguments are defeated and discoveries delivered with embryonic human stem cell research UNFETTERED,is applied who knows the advances being held back.


    And they squeak about 'morals" when they have no empathy for the ill ,for the love of money!
     
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    Spare us the emotion-based bullcrap, please.

    Cite the AMERICAN demographic which has a higher rate of STDs (especially AIDS), than gay males.

    Then explain what , exactly is "fettering" ESC research, other than its ABJECT FAILURES, and LACK OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT?
    ASCs and UMBILICAL CORD BLOOD SCs are ALREADY HEALING PEOPLE, which is why ESCs have been largely abandoned.

    Once pluripotence had been achieved in ADULT STEM CELLS, ESCs were, essentially, unnnecessary.
     
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    1983 Three thousand AIDS cases have been reported in the USA; one thousand have died.

    One death every 13 minutes from car accidents.

    About 15,000 people die a year from Hepatitis C.

    Today: The number of deaths of persons with an AIDS diagnosis has stabilised in recent years at around 16,500-18,000 per year.
     
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    Is that "Countys of the USA"or real countries as in Nations because their is more then" 85 countries" so which ones do you discount?

    let me guess ,Africian nations like Sth Africa ,or asian nations like Thailand and Cambodia?

    or anywhere else that the HIV epedemic has been left to become the AIDS .

    Not to mention the daily slaughter of children under 5 by capitialism everyday ,Capitialism hates children the most .its true ,picks on the weakest first ,lovely capitialist maggots .

    Yeah get things into perspective CAPITIALISM is dying ,let it, and move on to SOCIALISM or we perish with it!

    Oh that idea about "my contry \Nation" guess what they don't exist in the real world anymore !
     
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    And then consider the MILLIONS of UNBORN CHILDREN murdered annually in the US alone...due to OTHERS' BEHAVIOR..

    Still waiting for the American demographic with a higher rate of STDs (including AIDS) than gay males...and how that's "the government's fault"...
     
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    Now if I told you that not a 1 of those 16 500 - 18 000 with AIDS need die would you call that" a cure" if HIV infection was not cured???

    the problem was and is still that Hiv\Aids is still seen as a "gay Disease' when it is not, its H for HUMAN .In HIV!

    Because that is the stage of medical science on the Question ,1 pill a day keeps AIDS away!

    its called" Travada "oh and their are others as well.
     
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