Why do liberals undermine our country and culture by supporting Hispanic Nationalism in White Europe

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    and do you want Nazis with guns to make it vanish to suit you?
     
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    Hispanic nationals have Spain as a nation. What are you on?
     
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    pure ignorance of course. competition between races regions ethnicities arbitrary differences is how we evolve.
    Last thing we want is all humans the same and so vulnerable to same disease or ignorance.
     
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    Did all these blacks come from blackland?
     
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    We should give much of the Southern half back to Mexico that we stole. We stole the rest from the Indians and am considering options for land compensation but we now have a diverse group of people living here now but I am open to giving them full control of many states in the great plains. I'd also help Native Americans and other minorities gain more social and political control to balance things out. People came here because they knew that we were a diverse socially accepting society that was embracing liberal values of social equality.
     
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    The Nazis are right-wing nuts that are an extreme example of what Trump supporters could turn into and oppose diversity and social justice. I'd ban all Nazi beliefs.
     
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    more importantly they have America and will soon be the dominant ethnicity here. We will have a far more varied Hispanic culture than Spain.
     
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    what could be more Nazi than a desire to strip the Japanese of their identity because <Mod Edit- Rule 4> it is just a social construct of which you disapprove.
     
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    We gain far more from cooperation than competition and any competition doesn't have to be racial, it can be personal between people but too much competition breeds inequality and poverty.
     
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    and would you have your Nazi friends kill and imprison whites who fought for their homes??
     
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    I am fine with the Japanese having a cultural identity and to remember where they came from. Cultural identity creates a diverse society and is also more accepting of different ideas. National identity divides people by region and tears people apart. It also breeds a belief of national superiority which is inherently racist.
     
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    wrong of course evolution is about survival to reproduce. bacteria evolve through competition and if it evolves fast enough it will conquer us as a species. It is the nature of evolution. Much of human evolution came from war when pressure was the highest to compete and survive. Harvard admits only the best students, there is no cooperation!
     
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    You just talked about "competition between the races" and extreme nationalism which are far more Nazi than the equality and social justice I espouse.
     
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    actually Japan has no diversity!!
     
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    war has been constant through human history. You propose additional new wars between liberalNazis who want to steal land from 50 million Americans and give it to indians
     
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    Human evolution is over and has been over for 200,000 years and isn't coming back while human civilization exists. This obsession with competition is an Nazi talking point you need to abandon. Most human progress happened when the government decided to fund social institutions and technology. War tears down progress and has set other-wise superior nations in Europe behind the US because of WWII. Achievement is only one metric for getting into Harvard and being part of the right racial group is another way to promote social justice. For example Native American Elizabeth Warren getting into Harvard give a minority person a major position of power. Also money is another way to get in but we need to eliminate this because money is how oppressive social orders continue to dominate.
     
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    Yes, and it has hurt them greatly economically and has resulted in economic stagnation. They should be more open to let in Syrian refugees. But they have been oppressed by white people for centuries and need a little more time.
     
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    Conservatism is civic nationalist. It's not ethnic-nationalist. Why do you think the ethno-nationalists stared calling themselves alt-right once the left abandoned them and their dwindling population for other growing group identities? They didnt start saying they were conservatives.
     
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    Today in most places war is now absent and has led to an unprecedented economic expansion especially in the developing world today. War is about murdering people and wrongly stealing and destroying their land and possessions and most economic growth has happened when we put away our guns and worked together to build a fair and equal society. I do not want any war between whites and Native Americans and believe this return of stolen land should be done rationally, fairly, and peacefully.

    And by the way don't use the world "Indian" for Native Americans. That is highly racist and is the term the gold-hunting Columbus gave the natives he mass-murdered because he was too dumb to realize he was on the wrong continent.
     
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    Until the industrial era growth has been from the backs of slaves. The strongest civilizations used them. After the industrial era, technology dictates growth via automation and computer technology. Freedom, not equality, now allows growth because innovation thrives on it and technology thrives on innovation.
     

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