Why do Men rape Women?

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  1. Colonel K

    Colonel K Well-Known Member

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    If men don't rape for power, to dominate, why do they rape men when there are no women available?
     
  2. PatrickT

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    They don't necessarily. I object to the politically correct requirement that one rape equals one rape equals one rape. There is no single motivation for all rapes. Today, a man can commit rape without knowing it so I would assume no motivation to commit a rape would be present.
     
  3. Libhater

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    Well, one reason might be because of how liberals are so supportive of all the devious elements our society has to offer. Libs are supportive of pornography like with the NEA's steady supply of sodomy art. Libs look to eliminate capital punsihment in lieu of saving the life of the scum of which you just mentioned. I would think with yours and with the lib mentality that you would be giving your full consent to these rapists.
     
  4. CanadianEye

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    At the root core, IMO, is power control of the societal sexual arena in western civilized culture. Men are typically the aggressive initiators between the genders, and women, typically render a yes or no. The male aggressive initiator would obviously face a more constant sexual rejection much different than womens sexual rejection issues for beauty, weight etc.

    No idea why this is, however, I believe rape is the male using the brutality of physical strength to negate this predominatly female power base between the genders.

    Flashers, an almost exclusively male domain of occurence, is a less physically brutal display of this as well.
     
  5. Traditionalist

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    If women were taught to fight back, and took basic self defense seriously there would be less rapes. There's popular teachings that convey that if a woman fights back she'll make the situation worse.

    Most normal men don't get off by a kicking and screaming woman during sex, so most rapists I believe are just sick in the head.
     
  6. spt5

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    Those men rape women who got psychologically demaged in certain ways in their early childhood during their formative years.

    Women rape men too, only they rape men psychologically, not physically. The phenomenon is as common as physical rape by men.
     
  7. IgnoranceisBliss

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    Are you talking about the woman saying no and the man physically forcing her towards intercourse? Or just the man trying to escalate the situation while the woman rejected him? Many very interested women will play "hard to get" before whole heartedly giving in. Some women don't want to come off as "slutty" or others just get a thrill out of seeing a man try to break through their barriers (not violently). Most of this is completely non-physical, but I think its important to make a distinction. Anyone who's spent anytime with women knows that what they say and what they want in these situations can be very different. Obviously there's a very distinct line here. I'm probably going to draw a lot of flack here by people who don't understand what I'm saying, but some of you guys seem to have just finished watching the notebook without any grounding in reality. I've seen a lot of guys today who are scared to even touch a women because the hyper PC crowd has scared them away. This has left a lot of men and women disappointed.
     
  8. Stay_Focused

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    Rape is common once you don't have to pay for the legal price. The Soviet army and the Japanese army did that in ww2.
     
  9. Ramboner

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    Because weed and dinner for two at red Lobster isn't cheap like it used to be? :bored:
     
  10. BodyPolitic

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Europeans were the descendents of Neanderthals.

    This thread is full of men making unsubstantiated wild assertions.
     
  11. Libhater

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    Would your opinion still apply to the rape of women who lost their virginity and or innocence a long time ago under natural sexual relations?
     
  12. LibertarianFTW

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    I would disagree -- although "not getting some" can be a triggering factor, no rational/normal man would find pleasure in rape... I think you inherently have to be evil in order to work up the urge to commit such an act. You could most certainly make that argument for why men hire prostitutes, though.
     
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  13. Think for myself

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    What does your chronic beating off theory have to do with women's rights?
     
  14. Traditionalist

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    I'm talking about a man who ignores verbal cues and physical resistance.

    I've heard men say that when a woman says no she really means yes. These types of men really believe the woman wanted it and was just playing hard to get. I'm sure there are teasers out there but the bottom line is no really means "no". If I was a man I would not play games with the woman in order to protect myself and not entertain her if she was being manipulative. Walk away and kick her to the curb but don't rape b/c you think she is just playing hard to get.
     
  15. IgnoranceisBliss

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    As I said there's a very distinct line. Sexual relationships can be complicated though.
     
  16. Libhater

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    Perhaps before we convict and pass sentence on these rapists, we should determine what their motive was for raping their victims. Did these men rape because they were on a power trip, or did they rape for the simple reason that they were horny and too lazy or disinterested in dating and forming a natural relationship with a woman.

    I had thought that there would be some input from women as to their feelings concerning victimhood and chronic psychological issues. I had stated in other posts that I reject the ERA or Equal Rights Amendment. It would be interesting to get the female perspective on any part of this rape issue, ranging from their views to the punishment of the rapist, to the reasons they believe men rape, to what rights they have during the liigation process and whether they think its a possibility that they (the women) could have asked for the rape just by the way they dressed, or by something they said which could in turn lead to feelings of guilt etc.

    But to answer your question directly:

    Beating off has absolutely nothing to do with women's rights. I brought the subject up about rape because I saw that this particular sub forum of women's rights was losing luster as of late. If you were to look and most of the titles to the posts in this section, I think you'll find that most of them have nothing to do with women's rights. I'm just giving a shout out to all of the wonderful women that post here at PF, with hopes that things will pick up a tad...that's all.
     
  17. BodyPolitic

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    Scientific research would seem to indicate otherwise.

     
  18. BodyPolitic

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    No means no unless it means yes. The only time no means no is when you are five years old and have never had meaningful interactions with the opposite sex. I have had sex with plenty of women that have said no. I finally asked one of them what the deal was. She of course gave some coy answer.

    I have also walked away from certain situations because it simply was not worth it to get the bogus rape charge. To be perfectly honest in a lot of these date "rape" situations women are their own worst enemy. If you are the vulnerable one in a situation you really should take some personal responsibility for your safety. To wear skimpy clothes and go prancing around drunk flirting with various men at 2 am and expect a bar full of drunk horny guys to be responsible for your health and well being is a bit silly.
     
  19. Stay_Focused

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    The scientific concensus was that all modern human descended from Africa and Neaderthals were another linage different from us. For Europeans the likelihood of inter-mixing with neaderthal was very small but not totally zero.
     
  20. BodyPolitic

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    Actually most Europeans have Neanderthal DNA unlike their subsaharan cousins. The racist remark by the poster I was quoting obviously backfired on him.

     
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    Interesting. I stopped reading population genetics at 2008 and this is something in 2010. At that time the probability of intermixing is still considered as remote. But in that articles Europeans and Asian might imply a lot...basically most people outside Africa.
     
  22. BodyPolitic

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    Yeah it is interesting. I just pointed it out to debunk the other posters racist remark.

    Honestly most African Americans in the US have a healthy dose of European genes anyway due to interbreeding. I'll leave it to your imagination when all that interbreeding occurred.
     
  23. Zook

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    Well actually, no... because I didn't mean it in a literal sense. So it actually backfired on you for being so pedantic and petty.

    If you want me to speak literally I'll say that rape is so prevalent in the black community due to their homo erectus behavior. How's that?

    I was talking about caveman type behavior in general, not that blacks were neanderthals or cavemen themselves. That's a whole different discussion.

    I'm fully aware all humans share DNA with neanderthals and blacks don't. So instead of getting on your high horse and trying to teach anyone anything, you really just wasted everybodies time.

    Perhaps don't be so serious and don't take every single word in every single persons posts literally next time, hmmmm?
     
  24. BodyPolitic

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    Another depraved statement.
     
  25. BodyPolitic

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    Scientific research would seem to indicate otherwise...

     

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