WHY do Muslims try to kill Jews?....because Allah foretold it.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    With all the carnage going on in the Middle East today we need to ask ourselves WHY do Muslims try to kill Jews so often. The answer is that Allah/Mohammad taught that Muslims will have to do it eventually, for good things to happen: "The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews."
    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Antisemitism

    Question: what would be the best way to convince Muslims that Mohammad/Allah got it wrong - that Muslims will NOT have to kill the Jews someday?

    Me, I'd answer this question, but I'm not 100% sure that I have a great answer (yes, unusual for me). So what do Y'ALL think?
     
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    How was Hitler convinced?
     
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    If this were true why are the so called "Gulf states" looking like they want to join Israel against Syria and Iran?

    This is not a Muslim thing, sure I disagree with the theology as much as a lot of people, but to blame all the problems of the region eternally on Religion is silly. Leaders from every war of the last 200 years have been trying to use Islam as a political weapon and if we want to actually find a solution, I think we need to get away from such thinking.

    It's a shame to see how polarized the country is, this right on top of the post asking "Do you trust Kim or Trump more?" shows just how silly the country is as to being divided upon polarized political lines.
     
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    Convinced? Hitler was quite clear as to his thoughts on Islam.

    There are plenty of books and articles I have read on the subject, but just like I said above, he wanted to use "it" as a political weapon. I think Wiki actually summed it up quite nicely when they said:

    "Hitler made warm statements about Islam as a religion and political ideology. However, official Nazi ideology also considered Arabs to be racially inferior to Germans."

    Shocker, right?
     
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    In light of todays slaughter shouldn't the question be reversed??
     
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    Hitler was born a Christian, raised a Christian. The Bible says that god/Jesus hates the Jews so much that that psycho will see that even ethical Jews get nothing more for leading a good life than brutal savage torture. So the Bible is likely was first influenced Hitler to hate Jews - if god hates Jews, then Hitler felt he too should hate Jews.
     
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    Agreed - yes, the supremacists (Jews) that approve of the Jewish texts ("we are god's chosen people") are as guilty of allowing religious hatred into their lives as the Muslims are. Neither party is good, because both parties allow illogical, unproven, ancient fairy tales to influence their lives.
    I blame religion, of course.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The post says..."If you were Moon
    That post says..."
    If you were Moon, who would you trust the least? Trump or Kim?
     
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    Allah is like Hitler - Allah believes that all non-Muslims are inferior to Muslims.
     
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    Last 200 years? Try the last few centuries in the ME.
     
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    Yup, it sure does! And yup, it sure is silly
     
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    Weird, one human being thinks they are better or "more correct" than another human being and is saying how inferior the others' ideology is ...

    That NEVER happens .... does it?
     
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    Touche, most people simply don't know enough history of the last decade let alone the last millennia so I thought 200 may be a good place to start! :)
     
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    Religions base this on which INVISIBLE FRIEND they happen to follow, though.
     
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    As opposed to someone who thinks they can perfectly recreate and reproduce our global environment? Or that thinks they can exactly determine how 7 and a half billion people will be able to think? Right, religion is obviously our only problem ....
     
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    Never said "only", just "biggest".
     
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    Hmm, wonder if religion has killed more people from 1900 - 2018 than political ideologies. Now days, is there really a difference anymore?
     
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    Islam, especially chapter 8 and 9, is a political ideology.
     
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    Hitlers childhood had little to do with it. He also believed in the occult.
     
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    Just like modern liberal progressives....that is no shocker.
     
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    When from birth one believes that the ultimate authority, the ultimate mind, the ultimate moral guidance (GOD), hates Jews so incredibly much that even if they lead incredibly ethical lives that they deserve to not get into "heaven" and instead get nothing but brutal savage torture, then one will be much more likely to hate Jews - like Hitler did. I blame God/Jesus*

    *Many verses in the Bible say that Jesus IS GOD. So God/Jesus might bear some indirect responsibility for the Holocaust. If I myself had God/Jesus' alleged super-powers, I myself would have told Hitler that the Bible got it wrong, that Jews are were not the enemy. But that's because I'm more ethical, more loving, than God/Jesus.
     
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    Oh so now you can read Hitler's mind?
     
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    I agree. Don't take long to realize that everything here is silly. So carry on. I won't interupt. You're quite entertaining actually.
     
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    Thanks and will do!
     
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    Islam is a disgusting and reprehensible religion with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. It is the only major religion today that has not modified itself to exist in the modern world. Unlike Christianity, Bhuddism, Shinto etc, Islam does not and cannot coexist within a secular society. The basic tenants of Islam dictate that Sharia law is supposed to be the law of the land. Even the most moderate Muslim countries still rank at the very bottom when it comes to women's rights, minority rights and personal liberty in general. Islam is no different than communism or fascism, its just another disgusting, violent, repressive and authoritarian ideology that has no place in the modern world.
     

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