Why do NeoAtheists deny the practice of atheism is a religion?<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Oops, No 'compressed time' there! LoL
     
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    Time dilation is there if you read the rest of the post. But I guess there's no danger of that.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    You did not post any observations, whats up with that?
    You need a better bluff than time is different you know.
    You poke fun of the man who put lights and electricity in every home and kicked off the industrial revolution, even built a wireless remote control boat before 1900 while worshiping another who never invented so much as one solitary real thing.
    I am waiting to 'observe' your time compression, tick tock, or you gonna dodge it again?
     
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    Try actually reading the post instead of chopping off the part that provide you with the explanation you were asking for and pretending it wasn't there.
    You mean like providing some basic math demonstrating it? Hm, wonder why you can't address it.

    Poke fun? All I said was he got some things wrong, such as aether. Your assumption that he must be right about everything just because of his inventions is complete nonsense. I believe what Einstein has to say about this issue because the math checks out and observation has demonstrated he was right. What unrelated gadget he did or didn't invent couldn't possibly have less to do with whether or not he was right about his. Critical thinkers know this.

    And, unlike you, I can admit "my scientist" was wrong about some things. The only worship here is yours.

    See the math or the experimentation. The satellites you phone uses employ Einstein's time dilation formula.

    I can post some really brief introductory videos if you want.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    FYI, scientists are literally re-confirming the existence of time dilation AT LEAST every two seconds.

     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    you have given us nothing to show that time compresses or expands, cough it up please.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Yes and your observations that you keep going on about.

    that would be a very good start since I posted all the math and a tutorial proving time neither compresses or expands what so ever.

    Like Nikola Tesla said, your beliefs are metaphysics not physics.
     
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    Let me put things in perspective here. You claim atheism is a form of a religion.

    When I tell a kid that Santa does not exist, am I forcing a religion on that kid? Am I indoctrinating that kid into a religion of not believing into Santa?

    Your claims fail in logic. But, hey, since when did religion required logic in the first place?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Which perspective are you going to put things in?
    I agree that atheists are illogical since they believe there is no God and have no proof what so ever that God does not exist, you are right, the atheist religion defies all logic and reason.
     
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    I gave you the math, hell its a complete tutorial, item by item that proves that the math used belongs to Lorentz, not einee weiner, that time does not compress, but since relativity like [il]logic and [un]reason has become a neoatheist religion that wont stop anyone from worshiping a false god.
     
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    People with actual knowledge of the math have explained it to me. I can link you to the Fermilab videos explaining or Khan Academy's if you want. I made it through a few of your vidoes, but I didn't see anything claiming what you claim, and the Bible Code book in the background makes me question both the source's math and science skills. You may want to familiar yourself with what Lorentz is. You can't have Lorentz without time dilation. Time does compress. We confirm it every day, almost every second.
     
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    Tesla was wrong on this point. See the video I provided if you are actually curious about the truth. See the basic math I posted and you dodged. Different inertial frames of reference experience time differently relative to one another, depending on things like math and velocity.

    The equations predicted by this observation are used every day.
     
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    I gave you the basic math and the video above. Feel free to address them at any time, or just keep dodging.
     
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    Does it mean that not believing in Santa is a religion?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    but I have seen santa at the mall when I was a child and he picked me up by the scruff of my neck and sat me on his lap, why would you believe santa is not real?
     
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    :roflol:

    Ok, Santa is real. You got it, pal!
    No more questions to you!
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Anyone who thinks living flesh and blood is not real, Thank you.
     
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    I did, I gave you Lorentz, the fact that you fail to comprehend its the same core equation group you give einee weenie credit for, proves to me you lack understanding of the subject and are not able to perform the necessary calculations even after given to you in a tutorial that requires simply 9th grade math to figger out.



    Maybe get someone to help you if you really want to understand it.

    Oh and here is your boy that can tell you I am right and you are wrong, hope that helps.



    How about that? He admits einee weinee uses Lorentz, just like I said, amazing?
     
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    Atheism by definition is not a religion, as you well know. Just like not playing baseball isn’t a sport.
     
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    What are you even talking about at this point? You've completely lost track of the conversation. 1) I've had actual physicists explain this to me 2) I never claimed "einee weinee" of anyone see doesn't use Lorentz and 3) No, the dude in that last video isn't agreeing with you. He agrees time dilation exists. His has several videos going into different aspects of it.
     
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    you claimed time compresses, it does not.
    you cant travel to the future or the past

    I agree with time dilation strictly in terms which carries the meaning 'your perception of it' is incorrect, for moving objects ect, time however does not compress or expand, and as I have proven its not relative, but absolute, and calculating exact time for moving objects can be accomplished purely newtonian using Lorentz.
     
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    Time dilation =/= time travel. Yes, time dilation exists. It is predicted by mathematics (that you have failed to address) and by observation (that you have failed to address). It is a logical consequence of the speed of light having the same value in all inertial frameworks (which . . . wait for it . . . you have failed to address).

    ALL objects are moving. There is no such thing as absolute rest. And it isn't just perception. It is the value of t in an inertial framework, and it is different depending on your inertial framework.

    Math, observation, and the just about every physicist in the world disagrees with you.

    That's outright false. You've prove no such thing despite having been asked to do so.

    The Lorentz gamma is derived FROM time dilation. It is derived as a ratio of t' and t . . . two different time values. You can't have the Lorentz gamma without time dilation. Wait . . . are you trying to argue that t' (t prime . . . time of the object "at rest") is absolute? Because that would be hilarious.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Nope no compression or expansion there, when are you going to prove your claim that time compresses and expands?
     
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    Where are you putting your Nobel prize? On the mantel or did you get a custom case to display it?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     

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