WHY do people resist vaccination?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Reasonablerob, Oct 9, 2021.

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Why do people oppose the vaccine?

  1. Sheer stupidity

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    16.3%
  2. Paranoid distrust of the government/establishment?

    16 vote(s)
    37.2%
  3. Other?

    20 vote(s)
    46.5%
  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    This is one of my major problems with people who make assumptions. They use a paintbrush because they don't like what the person is saying, think they are insulting by calling them a name or label that isn't applicable, and then are proud of themselves for making a jack-a out of themselves.

    When you actually figure out the difference, get back to me.
     
  2. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    So unless you are dealing with MAS, and have spent years finding a balance, deny the idea that 'spiking one antigen' is not tweaking the immune system, and feel that you know what is best for everybody, may I suggest you go find yourself 3 or more auto-immune issues, of which flare ups cause extreme pain and debilitation, and give yourself an injection. Let me know how that works out for you.

    Your statement that I am exposing myself to 29 antigens means you didn't bother actually reading what I wrote, but that comes as no surprise. I question your bonafides, because a well educated person you claim to be doesn't deny that other health conditions can play a factor in the overall body's response, and the call it 'practicing' medicine, because there are constant changes to the information. Your bragging on how many people you have on ignore, which apparently you've added me to to make your 100, says more about your being unable to accept that someone not only has different information than you, but is thoroughly capable of understanding their own body.

    By the way, it's AS I said, not 'like' I said. You have a lovely day.
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What and who am I insulting? I'm not the one with snarky remarks about "college educated" and "pointy-bearded perfesssors". Trumpers are reverse snobs and proud of it; EVERYBODY knows that and that sort of attitude is about the most dangerous to democracy there is. It ALWAYS heralds an era of real repression and overweening tyranny. You can't really fight it rationally since rationality is one of the things it's after.
     
  4. Mircea

    Mircea Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that the items in the analogy are too dissimilar. When reasoning by analogy, it is a false analogy occurs when the analogy is irrelevant or very weak or when there is a more relevant disanalogy.

    Are you suggesting that people are being infected by COVID machine guns or are you suggesting that an unseen enemy is dropping COVID bombs on the US?

    In what way is war similar to pandemic?

    A proper analogy is any other pandemic, but you cannot use any other pandemic, because it disproves your thesis.

    In lieu of a pandemic, you could use an epidemic, like say, the HCOV-NH epidemic originating in New Haven, Connecticut about 17 years ago or so (hence Human Corona Virus - New Haven or HCOV-NH), but that disproves your thesis, too.

    No, we didn't have personal computers when I was in the 4th Grade and computers used key-punches instead of key-boards. We did have type-writers, but you had to be in high school to use those.
     
  5. CenterField

    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not following because whoever you're dialoguing with must be on my Ignore list, but there are analogies with pandemic of infectious diseases that are valid, such as the H1N1 influenza A pandemic of 2009-10 nicknamed the Swine Flu, and the avian H1N1 of 1918-19 (incorrectly) nicknamed the Spanish Flu that killed an estimated 675,000 Americans. So what is the thesis that would be disproven if the Spanish Flu or the Swine Flu were used as an analogy?
     
  6. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comparing the death count (56 000 vs 700 000) is not a false analogy when it is clearly explained that one resulted in a war, and the other from a disease.

    No, that idea was hatched in your brain, not mine.

    I am simply saying that we lost over 10 times more people to a disease in one year, than we did in a war which lasted 10 years, and the war was a big deal to our country. We lost 3 times more people to the disease in 1 year that we did in WW-2, and WW-2 was a MASSIVE deal. We lost 240 times more people to Covid than we did in 911. The death count MATTERS, no matter how you try to downplay it. A dead person is a dead person no matter what caused the death.

    No worries, - I get it that it was a typo.

    Oh...Brutus..you have put me on ignore.....:(
     
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  7. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    The problem with Natural Immunity is that they can't sell it.

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