Why do Republicans lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty?

I don't get people, especially anyone who actually lives on working wages rather than a fortune probably derived from a business or investments, who shill on behalf of the wealthy. They do not "earn" their income the way working people do; they reap massive personal benefits from corporate revenues and various capital gains. So why cry about the rates of taxation that they pay on these enormous incomes? Why pretend that they're being treated unfairly?

 

Because many of them still believe in the American dream and that they too through hard work and a bit of luck can be wealthy. As such they see excessive (or perceived excessive) taxation as not only unfair but a possible detriment to their future selves. Basically to their point of view "if I work hard I should be able to keep as much of my wealth as possible."

 

Yep that is it basically.

I have the potential to be there also so in a way its planning for my future.

See, conservatives can dream big and we think that someday we can be more than we are now.

Though it may never happen and probably won't, I believe it could.

So keep your hands off my money and tax those that use the stuff, not the rich.

 

Its always been a strange one. I'd go back to Bevan who said "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics". Perhaps the Trump phenomena is giving away the psychology. Psychology Today, for example, note: "The we-they feeling is responsible for the seemingly inexplicable support that poor Whites continue to hold for Donald Trump, even as his policies seem to make their situation worse, with less access to healthcare and tax cuts that may hurt more than they help. The in-group (Trump supporters) draw together in solidarity and feel greater animosity, resentment, and even fear of, the outgroup. Trump’s rallies serve to increase in-group cohesiveness and foster greater negative feelings about the out-group of Trump’s detractors". Sneaky!

 

Why do democrats do the same thing?

 

People who work for wages may also work for wealthy families who got the business started and show intense work ethic in keeping the business strong. Not all people have total contempt for the wealthy and many, like myself, see the huge philanthropy they contribute to their cities. I have nothing but respect for the wealthy business owners I have worked for in my years.

And some people believe that coveting what others have is not only a sin...but keeps a person from getting ahead. It's an energy waste to wish you could control someone else's money.

 

Yet the liberal philosophy of reliance on the state is just as destructive. Never do the policies advocated lead to the person rising above their station and advancing. They offer security but also stagnation. A prime example is its impact of minorities in major citys. They have had more then half a century of control in most major cities and yet the conditions of our minority citizens and their wealth generation has suffered not improved.

 

Makes you wonder. Sounds kinda like the "American Dream" idea was some kind marketing scheme.
Guaranteed to work for a few, but only at the expense of the many.

 

Why do the dems raise tax on the middle class to pay for everything all the while pretending to be against the rich while sneaking them tax deductions under the table? At least Republicans don't raise tax on the middle class.

 

I dont think the dream is at the expense of the many. The problem is when people think they are entitled to the success. No one is entitled to succeed or even to have a fair shake of things. What America does offer is the opportunity to attempt to succeed. The philosophy has always been an individualistic paradigm in which the one can achieve something through their own merit. What we have asked the country for is breathing room. Let us alone Uncle Sam so that we can try and excel.

 

This has been explained about a million and twenty times, but the thing with republicans is that we don't care that other people are rich. It's not about taking stuff from people because of jealousy.

 

They are in love with a dream and like a lot of dreams there is always magic

"I can fix it it is simple"


Cut the number of tax brackets
"The Trump Plan will collapse the current seven tax brackets to three brackets."

"The 3.8 percent Obamacare tax on investment income will be repealed, as will the alternative minimum tax."

Bring back manufacturing
"My plan includes a pledge to restore manufacturing in the United States."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/browse/?page=5

 

Two aspects with that. First, its wrong (countries with more generous welfare systems tend to show more social mobility). Second, its irrelevant to the thread.

 

1st we are talking about our country and how our liberal policies have impacted the country. 2nd is should definitely be a part of this discussion since it is the second side of our political structure. It is literally the other option that has been presented to us as voters. How is that NOT relevant to this discussion since it impacts why people vote its opposite the Republicans?

 

The constitution does indeed protect your right to be insular. Not sure about derailing threads mind you!

 

I am sorry I am afraid I dont understand? How is what I am saying not relevant to why people vote for the Republicans?

 

It was a GOP marketing scheme from the get go. After years of political watching, I have come to an unshakable conclusion. Every Republican move is aimed at creation of more wealth for themselves. Nothing else matters. Deficits are merely an opportunity for bond holders to stock up and cash in on dividends. Tax cuts, go for them if it benefits "us." It's a propaganda ploy that has taken in gullible (but honest) suckers for generations.

Watch Trump closely and learn.

 

Why do Republicans lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty?
Because that is what right-wing socialists do.

 

So in your opinion, the "American Dream" is a just an unfair gamble at best. Kind of like a big casino.
And you think Uncle Sam should just leave us alone.
Casinos have security for a good reason. People cheat . And the more you let them get away with it..
the more they cheat. You don't want government regulations simply because you might get caught cheating.
And without cheating, your chances of living the "American Dream" are nil.
Thanks for clarifying that.

 

Agreed.
Mr. Trump is the perfect embodiment of the GOP.
In a way it's kind of refreshing to finally see one of them without their
Christian mask or Patriot mask or hiding behind Ronald Reagan.

 

I don't get people who would rather use the tax code to satisfy their jealousy and envy than as the means to best raise government revenue with the least harm to the economy and the property rights of the citizens.

 

Didn't read whole thread. That the Republicans are the party of "the rich" and the Democrats the party of "the poor and working man" is one of the most entrenched Complex lie narratives by design, nearly 100 years old, and hilariously erroneous.

Fools only fools and those needing to rationalize their parasitism and overt desire to steal from their fellow man using government. It is the keystone of the "union label crime family" propaganda branch of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex, and is constantly spewed by local and national public unions such as the SEIU and NEA, their massive PR departments represented here by a large number of LW "individual" (lulz) posters.

Both parties are the parties of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex. One party, the GOP, still has a shred of ethics in place concerning lying to the public and spreading cancerous identity politics lie narratives generally. The other party, a plain crime family that lies fluidly all over MSM, the net, here, dozens of times a day, does not, in eternal service of higher taxes, larger government, more redistribution.

The non Complex, the non government-dependent private sector, tends to vote Republican as the lesser of two evils.

 

The wealthy 1% send their regards, especially the jealousy and envy part. There are very good reasons for inheritance and progressive taxes. The Founding Fathers knew it, and liberal democracies practice it. That why the G-7 are the G-7. The rest is just ultra right propaganda propagated by monetary self-interest, not economics or much less patriotism. It's a horrible scam and about to catch up with us.

 

This is what right-wing socialists do..............

 

This is what right-wing socialists do..........