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Why Do We Refrigerate Our Eggs and Europeans Don't?

Discussion in 'Food and Wine' started by longknife, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. yiostheoy

    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    All of you Fokkers who hold your forks curved down are just imitating fat old Queen Victoria.

    If you are going to do everything she did then you need to wear a black dress every day too.

    That's because Prince Andrew died from syphilis for boinking whores out in town.
     
  2. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Active Member

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    The UK your business needs to have
    • Alcohol license - You get this, you can sell alcohol.
    • Tobacco license - You can sell tobacco.
    A place of retail must have these licenses before it is allowed to sell these things..
    These business licenses are granted by the local authorities.
    The local authorities is local government, like the borough council.
    These issue all your business licenses for business in the borough, so, if you want to open 24 hours; you need to apply for a license, you want to open late nights? apply for a license. Want to sell lottery tickets? Apply for the license from the lottery commission or something. You want to take bets?, become a bookie? brothel? casino, sex shop (porno), adult film studio - you get a license to trade. - You want to open for more than 6 hours on a Sunday or bank holidays, or give somebody a tattoo... get a license.
     
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    There is the orginal specific reason dating back before the current reasons. In fact, some European countries outlaw eggs being refrigerated before being sold. Here is why:

    An egg, if not refrigerated, will not spoil for a very long time as the egg is a living organism - meaning natural defenses against bacteria, virus and so forth. When refrigerated, the egg "dies," so will spoil very quickly. Since many people did not have/can not afford a refrigerator it was made illegal for anyone along the sales path to refrigerate an egg. How would a consumer know if an egg had been refrigerated at some point earlier unless no eggs could be refrigerated.

    However, if you do not refrigerate an egg, it may continue to incubate, meaning when you do open it you can have a partially formed chick in it - which is a delicacy in some parts of the world, but not Europe.That is the reason people want to refrigerate eggs. In short, refrigerating eggs is not to keep them fresh longer, it is to "kill" the egg to keep it from continuing to develop, but then refrigerated needed to slow spoilage.

    Want to store a raw egg for 2 years with no refrigeration? Right after being latched just pack it in a wet lime brine (the mineral, not lime juice). You can get 6 months by storing eggs is wet salt brine. It can even be cold salt or lime brine to stop the egg incubating.
     
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    You mean Prince Albert. Prince Andrew is Prince Charles's middle brother ( and he was know for boinging everything that moved, BTW). Prince Albert was Queen Victoria's husband.
     
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    Totally wrong on your biology. The great majority of eggs we get in the U.S. are unfertilized, meaning they are not living things and won't become chicks no matter what you do to them. Every once in a while (or so I've heard), a fertilized egg gets into the system, but I haven't seen it in my 51 years, and for the past few years, I've eaten at minimum about 500 eggs a year. (2 for breakfast 5 days a week).
     
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    If he had used his utensil properly, he might still be alive today.
     
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    Pardon me, Sonny Jim, but the 'fourchette' (fork) is French, not English. Proper table manners originated in France, not England. The reason the 'fourchette' has prongs is because it is designed to impale food in order to bring it to your mouth, rather than sticking your face into the plate and gnawing. You SHOULD NOT turn the prongs upwards. Scooping food is the job of the 'cuillère' (spoon).
     
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    We also need licenses to trade in certain items - but it's much simpler here. We just don't issue them.
     
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    1888 - 1988 = 100 years.

    I don't think so.
     
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    Methuselah lived to be like 9 times that. Never underestimate the effect of good hygiene.
     
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    Moses was competing with the Odyssey when he wrote Genesis.

    You can't take that crap literally. It is great fiction though.
     
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    Methuselah was a time traveller probably? From the future where modern medicine is so advanced..
     
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    Powered egg...

    I've never had powered egg before, I've heard of it though.
     
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    here's the other problem, everyone seems to think all 'cracks' are visible, and those that cannot be seen by your eye, or for egg to get out of, are also not big enough for that bacteria to move into. Once the bacteria is inside, it behooves you to refrigerate to reduce reproduction.

    In short you don't know if the cleaning solution is consistent or applied consistently. You don't know if cross contamination happened post cleaning or pasteurization , and you don't know if there are minute cracks through which bacteria can gain entry. So it is smarter to assume the worst and keep that egg below forty until you intend to use it.

    that shell is like a insulated house, but sometimes...well... you know how that works.
     
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    Refrigerators use like 6 times the daily electricity as televisions. In the name of global warming we must stop refrigerating eggs. Hot eggs produced the greatest works of literature. Cold eggs produced Taylor Swift and the Kardashians.
     
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    This was the original reason in the past.
     
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    Refrigeration of food is the most important use of energy.

    It should be highest priority since food is the most important issue in life.

    Bicycles and mass transit are where we can save the most energy.
     
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    Buy foods in tins, dehydrated, or pickled. Refrigerated food will go bad as you are peddling down the street with them on a ninety degree day.
     
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    Milk, cheese, butter, meat, anything in jars, yogurt, cream, ice cream, frozen vegies, frozen meats, etc. and their transportation all require refrigeration.

    Food is more important than anything else.

    So refrigeration and the energy required for it must be the highest priority.

    Transportation is in 2nd place.

    National defense and world peace is in 3rd.

    These 4 are more important than anything else.
     

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