Why do you believe in God ?

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  1. BillRM

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    To be fair for the majority of time in history that Christianity held power to be an open atheist would be signing your own death warrant.
     
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    An more to the point a whole nation of mainly Christians went along with this mass killings.
     
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    To me he is just likely playing games and just looking to find ways to get all out spoken non believers ban from this group by one means or another.

    But that is just my opinion.

    Hell as far as I know he could be an ACLU supporter with the same kind of membership card in his wallet that I carry around.<grin.
     
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    Personally I am not into "game playing".

    I make my points and if they need to be clarified then sobeit.

    Yes, I do fall into the category of "outspoken nonbelievers" and if that makes me unwelcome I am sure that I will be notified in due course.

    LOL!
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the fall of 62-end of January 64, i was in Germany. You would be surprised how slow news was getting to we in the Army at the time. Thanks for the low number of examples. When I got back to America, In about a week i was back in CA and frankly a couple deaths like that were not big news in CA. It is doubtful the paper here mentioned Jew or non Jew.
     
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    If it happen to me it would not be the first such happening but one nice thing is that the internet is huge and if a website does not wish me to give them countless hours of my writings for free there are others that are eager to have such materials.
     
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    Well, given the number of SS and troops plus their police, it is more likely that they grew up with a disdain or disgust or in a few cases, hate of the Jews and it is unknown how many went to Church. Why blame the people over what the Dictator and his closest men did? I have no desire to try to make the Germans sound a particular way. I do believe that Hitler was a very ruthless man and prepared to handle the uprisings he faced and put down. It would, to me anyway make as much sense as saying you go along with Trump. And he is not ruthless as was Hitler.
     
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    Frankly, were I to check out each situation globally for all of mans history, I would not have time to live my life.
     
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    So two Jewish deaths is not enough of an example for you and you wish for more?

    Those two deaths and the fact that the state would not press charges again the killers came to my mind from personal memories but there are others of all faiths even including a German reporter that you would think would be cover in Europe.

    In any case, roughly half of all white freedom riders was Jewish before and after the two jewish killings.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Hey, here's some scary " learnin' " stuff ....look up the history of Jews in the American southwest 15th -16th century and read how Christians gave Jews two choices, convert to Christianity or be strangled to death....





    Frankly, it takes seconds in this technological age....but it does blow your theory on how "Christian" Christians really were so I understand your excuses....
     
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    I did not wish to drift off into one of your pet topics, life as a homosexual, though having a deceased brother who when living was one along with other family members who were as well qualifies me to an extent, so why drift off in that direction? An extreme atheist is what we have here done by a number of posters. They get angry when i discuss GOD and stomp their feet demanding I tell them which GOD and other issues they have. I don't have a problem with them so long as they keep it civil and refrain from the attack mode. A thing I have long noted is that Democrats call themselves liberal yet engage me in an authoritarian way. I lost all desire to see Democrats as liberal. A true liberal is not upset over my posts.
     
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    I am just fine with what you presented. I do not wish for more. Sad when one dies for a cause. Sad men kill for some dumb reasons.
     
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    You appear to be taking an extreme view is all. As were this the nature of Christians.
     
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    The problem is that there was no uprisings and for the most part the Christian population of German on the whole was all for the treatment of the Jews.

    An yes I blame the population of Germany who one allow Hitler to come to power and then support him for a decade or so in power.

    Next those SS members came for the most part from Christian German families.

     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Hey, here's some scary " learnin' " stuff ....look up the history of Jews in the American southwest 15th -16th century and read how Christians gave Jews two choices, convert to Christianity or be strangled to death....







    Frankly, it takes seconds in this technological age....but it does blow your theory on how "Christian" Christians really were so I understand your excuses....




    I take an extreme view? I think telling someone they have to convert or die is an extreme view....(maybe not for Christians ? )

    It WAS the nature of those Christians....
     
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    Oh good grief. Yes there were uprisings to get rid of Hitler, And he ruthlessly quelled them.

    Few people's warmly welcomed the Jews as here on this forum, we Christians are not warmly welcomed by outsiders, such as Atheists. They do not welcome us one bit. But in Hitlers case, he was a disease to humanity. So was Stalin yet seldom to Atheists rail on about Stalin since he too was an Atheist. He slides right by as we trash Hitler.

    Trashing Hitler is one matter but to extend it to all German people is as strange to me as were I trashing all Atheists over Stalin and laying the blame for him on his people of the Soviet Union.
     
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    Without me trying to prove your point, by me having to do the research, since you want to modify to those Christians, I have no need to drag this out. What do you think of the Atheists who killed millions of humans?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Hey, here's some scary " learnin' " stuff ....look up the history of Jews in the American southwest 15th -16th century and read how Christians gave Jews two choices, convert to Christianity or be strangled to death....

    Frankly, it takes seconds in this technological age....but it does blow your theory on how "Christian" Christians really were so I understand your excuses....

    I take an extreme view? I think telling someone they have to convert or die is an extreme view....(maybe not for Christians ? )

    It WAS the nature of those Christians....





    Address my post, admit Christians did atrocious things and then I'll answer your question.
     
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    Sorry but Hitler would had been a harmless painter of cheap paintings for tourists without the support of the major christian population of Germany.
     
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    Your opinion is noted.
     
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    People who were Cristian's did atrocious things. I am here for your answer to my question.
     
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    LOL so you are claiming that somehow Hitler came to power and remain in power for a decade without the whole heart support of the majority of the German population!!!!!

    The many hundreds of thousands of SS members and such supporters appear out of thin air and was not raised in good German Christian homes.

    He was able to somehow take over a nation of 80 millions against their wishes.
     
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    Your opinion is noted. I never said any of that so it remains your opinion. Hitler was not supported to uphold Christianity, he was a very dangerous dictator.
     
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    Thank you for being honest.

    Your question: "" What do you think of the Atheists who killed millions of humans?""


    They're as deplorable as the Christians who did it.


    Why you think I'd think anything else is a mystery....
     
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    Are you trying to say that Chicago is flush with Christians.
     

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