You're right. Flame throwers require no background check, no permit and are readily available for about $900- "Behold the XM42 ‘flamethrower’ - the terrifying weapon you can now easily buy online" https://www.scmp.com/news/world/art...rrifying-weapon-you-can-now-easily-buy-online
Do you just make this stuff up or did someone on CNN or PMSNBC tell you that in you and your ilks daily lib/prog marching orders?
And the next anecdotal story will have 15 attackers, then a horde of rabid pigs and eventually the same old......government tyranny. In the mean time, we arm Mexican drug lords and children massacres with high cap mags all with legally bought guns later sold in second hand sales and at local gun shows.. Just another excuse to prop up fear.
Who's common sense? 300M ppl. There's a plethora of common senses. It's why it's called working together. Not calling one who has a different view as the enemy. As so often is the case. Or small minded. Those type are only part of the problem. Not a part of the solution. I've said this throughout this thread. Everyone has their line in the sand.
That was Obama and Holder, however they are no longer in office to commit such criminal activities anymore.
that all you got? you just don't like that I support the 2nd for all free Americans I do not watch fox or msnbc, to biased for me
Great point! If we'd only make high-capacity magazines illegal then the Mexican drug lords wouldn't use them to support their trafficking in illegal drugs... Whatever we do, let's not arm the citizens with guns with high-capacity magazines or they might start killing the gang members who are killing them.
I hear you..yuck yuck...I suppose one thinks it’s the job of citizens to do law enforcement....it isn’t. That’s a red herring. Not that we can keep illegal weapons and mags out of every criminals hands, but federal bans and restrictions on weapons are very effective. After all, anyone, even a criminal who has an illegal full auto is a prime target for any acquaintance who would turn you in for rewards. The fbi has these kinds of resources that local enforcement doesn’t. The last thing a criminal without a felony record wants, is, a federal felony on record with a huge fine and jail time just for possessing an illegal firearm or high cap mag. Federal laws work when they are enforced.
Liberals have subtly been working toward an agenda of circular legislation, to remove guns from criminals, make certain facets of owning guns retroactively illegal, thus, making gun owners subject to being classed retroactively as criminals to justify the removal of guns from criminals. An extreme liberal friend of mine advocates mental health testing as a requirement to owning guns. I responded by observing, “but, you have suggested those that want to own guns are mentally challenged”. To which he replied, “exactly.”
That's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about, and you know it, self-defense. The laws banning criminals, including the Mexican drug lords that YOU brought into the discussion, do not stop those criminals from using illegal guns illegally. Federal laws don't work and will never work. First, they're NOT enforced. There are people arrested every day for possession of a gun after having been found guilty of a felony and they do not get 10 years in jail. https://www.richardhornsby.com/federal/crimes/felon-in-possession-of-firearm.html https://fox6now.com/2016/10/27/theres-no-disincentive-to-carry-a-gun-felons-with-guns-still-dodge-minimum-sentence-despite-new-law/ Yet, time after time, in literally most cases, no federal charges are filed. State laws, also rarely enforced, have far weaker sentences for felons with a gun. So, no, I am not trying to be the police but I know that the police cannot protect me. Some wish they could but it's not possible, some don't care to. Full Autos are the red herring. Thousands of guns get taken from felons every year, virtually none are full autos. Virtually none of those felons will get 10 years in prison. Literally over half won't go to prison at all. Laws preventing law-breakers from doing anything don't work - they're law-breakers; it's what they do. Save 15% on insurance at...
There are two parts to enforcing any law . The first is actually passing the appropriate laws , the second is passing the subsequent provisions required of every one to demonstrate their compliance If you can’t show or execute the effective paperwork to appropriate individuals during transfer or possession , you’re fked. You can be turned in for failing to register an automobile or a full auto in transfer or operation by anyone with enforcement requirements.. In private sales for most firearm types, there are no federal requirements of the seller or buyer. Being ignorant of the law is a defense because “ intent” cannot be verified one way or another. You guys can fool each other because so few know much about the law and can play these little games, but for those who know, it’s just boring to hear and self serving BS. Your little conservative references mean nothing....Fix and fix light mean nothing. You gave one reference of the felony possession law itself and one case where prosecution was avoided . BFD. You've had your lesson. It’s boring hearing the same trype.
Only because such is based upon the matter of taxation, rather than anything relating to safety. Motor vehicles are not registered to reduce accidents, but so taxes and fees may be collected on their operation and use, just as with fully-automatic firearms.
There's a legal practice, I don't recall the name, where it is not necessary to call a hundred witnesses to a crime after one or two are called and it is accepted that the other 98 are all going to testify to the same. The articles explicitly show that far beyond 50% of felons caught with guns are not prosecuted even by the states; Federal prosecutions are even less. There's no need to show every case the authors examined to calculate their numbers. In addition, I only showed two articles. In virtually every state, and certainly across all states for Federal prosecutions, there are similar numbers. Under the same legal practice, my demonstration from two states is adequate; there's no requirement that I post all 50 states. In any case, your argument that we should depend solely on the police for our protection and law enforcement is completely wrong and unsupportable. As you're now saying the law is unenforceable. I agree with that and that's why I have to defend myself and my own. And, no, there is no exception to the law for ignorance of the law for possession. There is a "knowingly" requirement for a person delivering a gun to a person prohibited by law from owning a gun but no exception for the person receiving the gun. You're absolutely wrong, and I believe you know it, that the law against a felon receiving a gun even in a private transfer. You're twisting the law and the truth to support mandatory background checks but the law is already clear. A felon cannot possess a gun and, yet, when they do, they almost never get any punishment from the State and even less punishment from the Feds. No, I haven't had a lesson from you; there's nothing on God's green earth that you can teach me.
Where’s the proof ? Prosecution isn’t any indicator at all. More often, trials are settler out of court including which offenses are prosecuted.. If you think federal laws are weak, why isnt everyone breaking them ?
They are indeed being broken, regularly and routinely, by those who either do not care, or those who have firsthand knowledge about their shortcomings and failure. Continuing to believe that they are the answer demonstrates an absence of critical thinking skills.
. So much of the gunner crowd’s assertions is bogus. . You seem to think criminals don’t know the differences between federal, state and local laws and the ones like private purchases they can easily get away with through straw purchases. They do know and it seems, better then bloviators here.
They know they will not be prosecuted for firearm-related offenses, as all charges are routinely dropped and never go to trial. It is only under extraordinarily rare circumstances where a firearm-related charge is ever prosecuted, even in the state of Illinois. The city of Chicago routinely dismisses charges of illegal possession of a firearm, even when the accused is a known felon and gang member. Without enforcement, laws mean absolutely nothing. The federal government prohibits substances such as marijuana under all circumstances, yet numerous states are declaring that they will not abide by the federal prohibition, essentially daring the federal government to do something about it.
