Why do you trust Trump?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by MrTLegal, Mar 22, 2017.

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Why do you trust Trump?

  1. I inherently trust the man and thus, I am willing to believe most everything he says...

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    4.2%
  2. I distrust other groups (Democrats, Establishment, Media) and thus, I am left with no other choice..

    9 vote(s)
    18.8%
  3. Trump has a proven track record of telling the truth as I perceive it...

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    4.2%
  4. I don't trust him....

    27 vote(s)
    56.3%
  5. Other...

    8 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I looked at what they had. There is no way any objective mind would look at this, and maintain trump is somehow more guilty of lies than Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Hillary. To date trump has told no lie that even approaches the lying of Hillary. Many of what the left wants to call lies are nothing more than getting the stats wrong, not remembering them correctly. So, when Obama made the mistake about the number of states, most people would just say he had brain fart, but with the left, this is a lie when trump makes similar mistakes.

    So, when trump lies as bush and cheney and that group did which lost us many American lives in war, only then does he approach what you blame him of doing. When trump lies to the American people like the Obama admin, including himself and Hillary on the cause of the murders in Libya, I will call him a liar, on par with the people I named above. Until then, mistakes made in stats, will not qualify as lies. They are mistakes.

    One more thing. If you put any politician under the microscope, as trump as been put by the MSM, trump would be no greater a liar than the average politician. And certainly not as bad as you and MSM want to color him. His lies have mostly been insignificant, which cannot be said about Hillary, your girl Yet you probably voted for her. Trump has never told the quality of lies Hillary told, and yet trump's lying somehow is a problem with you? Give me a ****ing break.

    I trust trump because he has not been corrupted by the corrupt system in place. I trust him all the more because he made history by actually trying to keep his PROMISES, which no democrat nor GOPher has done to my recollection in my life time. Funny how you guys strain out the gnats but let the elephants pass through your sieve, your biased sieves. What I see doing is that you call a man a liar when he lies to someone about the size of his penis, and then equate that quality of lie with the lie of another man who murdered someone and then lied about it. Lies are not equal. And yet you try to equalize them.. No way in hell trump could ever be the high quality liar Hillary is, and yet you supported that liar, and now trump really upsets the Hillary supporters because he has told lies, many of them like Obama's brain fart in regards to how many states make up the US. There is no integrity in this, and that is what pissed me off about ideological driven people. The total lack of honesty and integrity, while they point out trump is a liar. Pot meeting the kettle.

    If he turns out to be another Bush, Obama, or Hillary, I will blast him, but he has to sink that low before I do that. Because I consider context.
     
  2. Dropship

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    Aargh I just got a message saying a post of mine was deleted from this thread for threatening violence, can somebody remind me what I'm supposed to have said, and to whom?
    (And there was me just about to donate cash to this site (sniffle), huh you try to be nice..)
     
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    So you don't make a point to go to a doctor with a degree if you don't like the way he diagnoses you?
     
  4. fifthofnovember

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    OK, I know it's fun to do that to piss off Trump haters, but seriously, we need to step down from the alter of worship. Donald IS a politician now. Right now he's not a very effective one, but I hope he adjusts quickly to his new job and becomes one.

    And I do hope you posted that Churchill quote with an understanding of its irony. Try to get unlimited power from a boiler and you will blow yourself up.
     
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    Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in May 1968 with a Bachelor of Science degree in economics, so he's obviously qualified to handle the US economy and make you all as rich as him..:)
     
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    You're joking right? Don's ended 70 years of mistrust between America and Russia, and he's protecting the Homeland with a Wall and a muslim ban, huh he tries to be nice...
    PS- I just heard the Democrats have sabotaged his plans to scrap Obamacare, whose side are they on?
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    America still distrusts Russia. With good reason. That Donald got in bed with Putin before the election only increases our concern.


     
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    Why does Russia worry you and some other Americans? I mean, Russia's on the other side of the planet isn't it, so how is that a threat?
     
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    Ever heard of the internet?


     
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    I don't think we'll see a Russian invasion Task Force steaming through the Golden Gate any time soon..:)
     
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    Let's hope. In the meantime, bad people can do bad things in other ways. Putin is a bad person.


     
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    Why, what's he done?
     
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    A deluge of foreign policy experts, from high-ranking politicians to military specialists, have been sounding from the rooftops that Russia poses a serious threat to the west and its allies. Putin’s defiance and refusal to engage in peaceful negotiations with the US and NATO is putting foreign policy experts on edge, and making a non-military resolution of our disputes increasingly difficult. If Russia’s aggressive and hostile actions do not cease, experts have warned that we may be forced to take decisive military action. However, many ordinary citizens are unaware of why Russia poses such a great threat, so this article breaks down some of the events that have foreign policy experts so concerned.

    Ukraine

    In 2014, the Kremlin shocked the world by deciding to officially annex Crimea, an Eastern part of Ukraine. Violent Russian militias and secretive pro-Russian forces swiftly engaged the Ukrainian civilians who disagreed with this loss of sovereignty, and a full blown civil war broke out, which continues to this day.

    Syria

    In 2015, Russia allied with Assad’s brutal regime in Syria to crush the Free Syrian Army, a revolutionary group aiming to liberate Syria from Assad’s violent and oppressive rule. Assad’s atrocious human rights record speaks for itself, and highlights Russia’s callousness towards the suffering of the Syrian people and others affected by their actions overseas.

    Georgia

    In August of 2008, Russian-backed Georgian separatists in a disputed northern region of the country launched a series of unexpected and brutal artillery strikes against Georgian villages. The events shocked the international community, and highlighted yet again the volatile and violent nature of Russia’s overseas rebel groups.

    MH17

    In July of 2014, the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 passenger jet, was tragically and mysteriously shot down over the Russian-Ukrainian border, killing 283 innocent passengers. Russia denies its involvement in the incident, but numerous experts believe that Russian-backed rebels are the primary suspect.

    Putin’s regime has always been corrupt, and known for disappearing journalists who dare to question his tyrannical rule. But now Putin’s aggression is extending beyond Russia’s borders, and threatening our very way of life. The west needs to be ready to take decisive military action against Russia if Putin’s hostile actions do not cease. As a the world’s greatest superpower, it is the responsibility of the US to work with its allies and NATO to quell any threat to global peace and stability by any means necessary. And as Americans, we need to stand ready to take up this challenge and stand firmly behind our military, if this course of action sadly proves necessary. (source)


     
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    Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, who fled from court prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom.

    On November 1, 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome. Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.

    Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko's death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments. During the 2014–2015 trial the Scotland Yard representative witnessed that "the evidence suggests that the only credible explanation is in one way or another the Russian state is involved in Litvinenko's murder". (from)



     
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    A declassified report on Russian hacking activity pertaining to the recent U.S. presidential election details how intelligence officials believe Moscow and its supporters attempted to put their stamp on the political process.

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    The report details an elaborate effort by the Russian government, at the direction of its president Vladimir Putin, to discredit and denigrate Hillary Clinton while trying to cast Donald Trump in a favorable light including cyberattacks as well as propaganda.

    The report specifically names Dmitriy Kiselev -- who it calls "Putin's chief propagandist" -- saying that he used his weekly newsmagazine program "to cast President-elect Trump as an outsider victimized by a corrupt political establishment and faulty democratic election process."

    ...

    Another specific tool that intelligence officials believe was used by the Russians were internet "trolls" who "amplified stories on scandals about Secretary Clinton and the role of Wikileaks in the election campaign."

    The trolls were deemed "professionals" in the report, and were "previously devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine."

    The work of those trolls appear to be among some of the earliest actions that were taken by Russian forces in support of Trump, as the report states that the trolls "started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015." (more)


     
  16. liberalminority

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    if the world is ruled by might makes right, why shouldn't russia be allowed to take whatever it can with force.

    America should do the same, and when there is a stalemate that will conclude world war 3.

    world war 3 does not have to be mutually assured destruction from a nuclear war, since russia is only taking what it believes rightfully belongs to it.
     
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    The U.S. verses Russia won't be a world war. Russia will be alone.

    Taking whatever you can by force, is not taking what rightfully belongs to you.

     
  18. One Mind

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    You did not have to amplify stories on Hillary. Past news reports, before the primaries, and what is known about her when added to the truth revealed in wilkileaks was sufficient. I think trump is an outsider, because it is a fact, and I know the political establishment is corrupt, as evidenced by the Princeton Study, and wilkileaks and other sources, non Russian, evidenced how corrupt the DNC was in regards to Sanders. No one needed Russia to know this stuff, for all of it was known before Russia allegedly interfered. Allegedly because to date what is lacking is evidence shown to the American people. The hacking software responsible for the DNC hacks is available on the dark net, for it is old, not updated and new. Podesta fell for a phishing scheme, commonly used by hackers, and not even the latest stuff. That Russian footprints were found in the hacking software used on the DNC, means it was not Russia as McAfee said. Unless of course they wanted to get blamed for it. Then you have ambassador murray who said he knew the insider in the DNC, which supplied the emails to wilkileaks, and he was not Russian. Of course as soon as this story broke in the UK, MSM went into complete blackout with murray. For the Russian story had to be sold.

    RT was even blamed for Russian propaganda, when the fact is, open source, that American employees are free to report as they want, are not controlled, so this is just a lie. IN fact, RT does not pre-interview its guests the way CNN and other MSM do, in order to censor.
     
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    You don't. He did.


     
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    he's a salesman... say no more

    no wait... he's a conman not a salesman
     
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    More often than not, the 2 are the same.

    Many eventually graduate to Politician.



    Or end up in prison.
     
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    Not a troll. Just a nice Englishman that's pleased America chose Trump.

    Wake up with a smile on your face, realizing that Trump is your President for the whole day!
     
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    UN fears 200 died in coalition airstrike on Mosul
    Source: BBC

    The United Nations has raised grave concerns about reports of high civilian casualties in the Iraqi city of Mosul.

    A senior UN official in Iraq said she was stunned by accounts of "terrible loss of life", after claims that at least 200 people had been killed in an air strike by the US-led coalition.

    US warplanes are supporting the Iraqi Army's mission to retake Mosul from the Islamic State (IS).

    US media reports say an investigation is underway.

    Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39383989







    Trump terrorism kills innocent civilians - why aren't people calling this TERRORISM???
     
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    There will obviously be many dead civilians when the people you want to kill wear them like a shirt. The ISIS folks do not care if they die and want to take as many as they can with them.
     

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