Why does the whistleblower's identity matter?

The question before the Senate right now is whether Donald Trump has committed an impeachable offense. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

How does knowing the identity of the whistleblower or his motives help us determine whether the president has committed an impeachable offense?

The whistleblower had one role in this impeachment process. He brought to light the conduct that is the subject of this impeachment inquiry. Now the question is whether that conduct rises to the level of an impeachable offense. Nothing we learn about the whistleblower will change that conduct.

Face it, republicans. I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise in a pathetic effort to save face but we both know I'm making sense.

 

Is Biden off limits only because he's a presidential candidate?

 

Joe Biden's off limits where it concerns Trump's corruption & impeachment. Biden's not a public official, he's not a witness, and he's irrelevant. And as far as Hunter is concerned...even if Hunter was a mass murderer in the Ukraine, it would have no bearing on Trump's charges of corruption.

Trump pointing the finger at Biden is like a bank robber pointing the finger at the manager of the bank he robbed. It's both a distraction & a time consumer, allowing Trump the opportunity for reelection before the impeachment can be completed.

 

Easy answer: transparency

The American people deserve to know how this nonsense got started and who was involved. Why would anyone care if people knew who this whistleblower was? What is there to hide?

 

The purpose of exposing the identity of the whistle blower is to cause the effect of scaring other whistle blowers, into silence.

Plus Republican rhetoric needs “bad” guys to complain about.

 

The Whistleblower has been known for months.

 

Do you apply that to all whistleblowers or only ones who report things you don't want reported?

 

Like any other whistle blowers they should be placed under protected custody and should undergo witness protection programs. If ever the whistle blower is exposed.

 

If the American people deserve to know the identity of a whistle blower, why is there a Whistle Blowers' Protection Act? And why is POTUS mandated - by law - to protect them?

 

So we need transparency in an individual that witnessed wrongdoing of the highest ranking government official — that the story has been verified by numerous other government employees and officials — but we don’t need tax records or meeting records of the same highest ranking government official... The same highest ranking government official that argues he is above the law and has been at the epicenter of numerous ventures that have failed or shuttered due to fraud and corruption...

You’re serious aren’t you?

 

Um because the impeachment process itself isis in this case corrupt and Ill founded and the people involved in such a totally corrupt process should pay some sort of penalty.

 

We need to know in order to positively determine the extent of the conspiracy. Right now, all we have is one media report.

 

The identity of the whistleblower is protected by law, a law written by Republicans. The whistleblower shared a concern with superiors through the chain of command. The superiors saw the whistleblower's concerns to be real and immediate. The WB reported heavy smoke from a building. His/her superiors said, "Wow! It sure looks like there could be a fire!"

They kicked down a door and flames shot out. Now the building is totally ablaze. Did the whistleblower start the fire? Was the WB a democrat? A republican? Did the WB lead the investigation? Nope, the WB just pulled the fire alarm. If someone pulls the alarm in a fire, should they be investigated or given a medal? The answer is obvious.

There really is no argument worthy of debating.

 

There are questions about the motives of the whistle blower and Adam Schiff and whether they might have tainted the evidence. This is especially true since their are questions about Schiff knowing or whether he had met the whistle blower.

 

"The identity of the whistleblower is protected by law..."

Fake News. Whistleblower's identities are only marginally protected by law.

"The whistleblower shared a concern with superiors through the chain of command."

More Fake News. After recieving an illegal leak, the hoaxblower colluded with House Democrats to plot the best way to spin the leaked information to damage the President.

"There really is no argument worthy of debating."

Yep. It's another hoax, being perpetrated by corrupt political hacks.

 

Totally irrelevant. The toothpaste is out of the tube and can't be put back. Irrelevant, because the whistleblower law passed by Republicans provides for anonymity of all whistleblowers to ensure whistleblowers are protected from retribution of any kind. Since the whistleblower identity is protected, the Schiff role, if any, is moot. In the words of a prominent Republican, "Get over it."

 

Not totally irrelevant because we do not know how far the whistle blower's influence goes. The only thing irrelevant is that additional witnesses probably will not be called anyway. But, if they are, it will open up a whole new can of worms for the democrats.

 

And Trump Wants REVENGE

Mark my words. if his/her identity is known he will be DEAD before November, and nobody will be able to convict Trump of it any more than they're able to impeach him.

There is ABSOLUTELY no other reason for demanding this identity to be known.

 

DEATH to all who dare oppose the Orange God

 

Then you want the witnesses called? Fine, so do all the Democrats

Have the Trumpers pushed their bushwa for so long that they're beginning to believe it THEMSELVES?

 

If I were a Senator, I would be voting "No" on additional witnesses for either side. Senators have enough evidence to decide whether Trump's phone call constitutes an offense which rises to the level of removal of office, if any offense was committed at all.

The appropriate course of action would be to have the DOJ open an investigation into Schiff, Ciaramella and Misko (and possibly Vindman) to see if they conspired to overthrow the sitting president, reverse the impact of the 2016 election, and illegally influence the outcome of the 2020 election. If such a conspiracy exists, then attempting to topple the holder of the Executive Office borders on treason.

I agree that calling the whistleblower to testify during this Senate impeachment trial will not change the outcome of voting on whether or not Trump intended to influence the outcome of the 2020 election. No additional witnesses for either party will change the outcome. The whistleblower may have been groomed or coached as the impetus for the charges, but has nothing to do with Trump's innocence or guilt.

 

Democrats could "off" him....and blame it on Trump.

 

I didn't write any of the bolded text that you inserted into that quote bubble.

Aside from that, I take the fact that you resorted to personal insult, as an indication of the weakness of your argument.

 

No, you make no sense at all. The whistle blower is the primary accuser in the impeachment and therefore a key witness. It is entirely proper and necessary to know the motives and genesis of his improper whistle blowing.

 

Yes, and that he is a Democrat.