Why don't whites demand reparations and why don't blacks demand reparations from Africa

Whites should demand reparations from muslims in middle east:

Barbery slave trade:
"According to Robert Davis, between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and Ottoman Empire between the 15th and 19th centuries.[17][18] However, to extrapolate his numbers, Davis assumes the number of European slaves captured by Barbary pirates were constant for a 250-year period, stating:

There are no records of how many men, women and children were enslaved, but it is possible to calculate roughly the number of fresh captives that would have been needed to keep populations steady and replace those slaves who died, escaped, were ransomed, or converted to Islam. On this basis it is thought that around 8,500 new slaves were needed annually to replenish numbers – about 850,000 captives over the century from 1580 to 1680. By extension, for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000."[19]"

christian slavery in Muslim Ibera
'During the Al-Andalus (also known as Islamic Iberia), the Moors controlled much of the peninsula.

In Spain concretely they imported white Christian slaves from the 8th century until the Reconquista in the late 15th century. The slaves were exported from the Christian section of Spain, as well as Eastern Europe, sparking significant reaction from many in Christian Spain and many Christians still living in Muslim Spain. Soon after, Muslims were successful, taking 30,000 Christian captives from Spain.'

Ottoman slavery
Slavery was a legal and a significant part of the Ottoman Empire's economy and society.[28] The main sources of slaves were war captives and organized enslavement expeditions in Africa, Eastern Europe, and Circassia and Georgia in the Caucasus.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery#Barbary_slave_trade

Blacks should demand reparations from Africa:

There was already a domestic slave trade when they arrived, Amarteifio said, although slavery didn’t mean what it came to mean in America. Enslaved people had some rights and opportunities.

Still, “The system already existed,” Amarteifio said. “The Europeans saw it. And thought: ‘Ah, we can try these people in our lands in the New World.’”

But Amarteifio says the Europeans weren’t going out and capturing Africans. They couldn’t — they got sick and died from illnesses like malaria. Some African ethnic groups went into business, warring with other groups so they could capture prisoners they sold as slaves to the Europeans. Amarteifio says they were organized and intentional about it.

“To pursue slavery successfully, you need a highly organized group because somebody has to go out there — somebody has to locate the victims; somebody has to lead an army there; somebody has to capture them, transport them to the selling centers; all the time, keeping an eye on them to make sure they don't revolt,” he said. “And then sell them, and move on.”


https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-08...-forgot-and-remembered-their-role-slave-trade

 

Some Irish were brought here to America as slaves by the English.

 

Irish need not apply.

 

Talk to Erdogan.

 

I tried to claim reparations from South Africa because of the Boer War and stuff like that. It happened you know and children of Boers deserve reparations just like any other minority group.

 

I think the Germans should demand reparations from the Jews for......

Man, this must be one of the most desperate threads I've ever seen on PF.

 

Mike's gone full Blitzkrieg.

 

Is there any evidence of Whites being at current demographic disadvantage due to historical concerns?

 

many whites and blacks are having economic issues right now, everyone needs help

 

I want reparations too because I voted for Trump and he lost. I've been sick ever since.

 

Never fly, Africans will get a pass for selling them because Whites bought them, and Muslims will get a pass because....well, they're Muslims.

 

I would have thought that Australians knew all about this given their relationship with China....

 

sure.. since you have no substance to offer, ad hominem is best you can offer. I expose people like you every day.

slavery has been part of human kind for thousands of years...

but pls explain why blacks have no issues with the fact that it was africans who made slavery possible... they were the ones capturing blacks and selling to europeans, for profit. Reparations should start in africa.... oh, no? Why? Because africans are black? Quite racist to demand reparations from whites, not the blacks who made it all possible.

 

don't you have bootstraps? learn to code!

 

so people apply racism to solve past problems, make whites pay, not black or muslims, who committed same offenses.

 

i’ll ask same question:


but pls explain why blacks have no issues with the fact that it was africans who made slavery possible... they were the ones capturing blacks and selling to europeans, for profit. Reparations should start in africa.... oh, no? Why? Because africans are black? Quite racist to demand reparations from whites, not the blacks who made it all possible.

 

Did Africa have a Constitution that was designed to protect the rights of Americans? The difference is government sanctioned
slavery vs. individual actions. Slavery was codified in US law. If you don't see the difference, I can't help you.

And have you asked black Americans if they have problems with, or hate the black Africans who were slave traders? Try that.

Personally, I don't support reparations for slavery, since the individuals involved have passed away - but we do have a number
of black Vets who served in WWII who were denied GI Bill benefits because of the color of their skin - those people deserve
reparations.

 

Do we really want to go back hundreds of years and pay current citizens for any wrong their ancestors experienced? Those wrongs could make a long list. Payments would probably break the bank, or wear out our printing presses. Why do so called intelligent people keep opening a can of worms? I guess they can't see past their holier than thou noses.

 

ok, so you are ok with slavery as long as it's not 'codified' in law. I see...

reparations are the dumbest idea.. Most of the poor in America are white, not black... BY FAR. Yet we want to pay blacks for the sins of people who are dead.... and based on skin color.... We should be helping all poor... not just blacks.

 

Ah....so it’s the Africans fault that people in the US had slaves. What, the Africans forced people in the US to have slaves??? Look, this reparations crap in a bunch of nonsense and I don’t support it one bit. Let me repeat that for those who have reading comprehension issues. This reparations crap in a bunch of nonsense and I don’t support it one bit. But to blame Africans for what US slave owners did is beyond asinine. No one forced US slave owners to do what they did. They did it all on their own choosing. Stop trying to put them blame on someone else for what US slave owners did. And again...I. Do. Not. Support. Reparations.

 

Asinine reply on your part. I showed a difference, I did not sanction either. What is your problem.

 

There are complexities in any form of reparations that aren't direct, that make it more and more impractical with each generation. The way reparations should work (or should have worked) is each individual who was enslaved receive pensions from the state that sanctioned their enslavement. Meaning people who were enslaved in the US under US law receive compensation from the US government, people who were enslaved in Brazil under the law in Brazil receive compensation from that government, and so on. However giving financial compensation based on anything other than direct impact, and from a source other than the state who sanctioned it doesn't make much sense.

 

there is no difference. The state runs itself? is it it's own entity with it's own mind? no, the laws were set by people, it was people, not the state. So in this case, any people who enslave any groups, no matter if it's state law or not, same.

The state who made slavery legal doesn't owe anything to anyone because it wasn't the state, it was the people who set the laws and all of those people are dead. The state doesn't represent those dead people anymore so the state doesn't owe anyone anything. The state now represents people who are against slavery and so having the state pay anything is coming out of who's pockets? the people's pockets, people who had nothing to do with slavery.

 

pretty much..... they offered slaves to europeans for a profit, otherwise, europeans would've probably enslaved indians or other white people. They happen to come across africa and noticed 'hey, look, africans have slaves... why don't we look into using slaves just as africans use slaves, we need free labor.' Then the africans saw an opportunity to profit from selling their own kind and they captured, enslaved and sold their own... 'here you go europeans, good doing business with you'

yeah, pretty much.