Why Feminism Hasn't Spread to Non-Western Countries.

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  1. Renee

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    Spoken like a true extremist! Too silly to address
     
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    Why Hasn't Feminism Spread to Non-Western Countries? Simple, in most of the counties you are speaking of, institutional misogyny is so entrenched into their society that women are not allowed to even think about equal right.
     
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    Well, of course. But, I never said children are better off in an abusive household, did I? I simply stated that children are happiest when their parents are happy together.

    I am a child of divorce and I can say it did not benefit me in any way at all.
     
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    I can see you have many years of wisdom beyond your age with all your knowledge of interpersonal relationships..
     
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    When it happened when I was a kid we went from middle class to wish sandwiches..and I went to work to support the family at 13..
     
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    It has more to do with the social construct/contract that still exist from the ancient era of human civilization..
     
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    Paterna familia is the social structure of male dominance which was prevalent of all ancient societies. The reason why the US was able to change easily is we have no background in having an ancient society and we have a society that is open to change..
     
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    And I know children that are happier not living in a home that was loveless.Of course ideally two loving parents raising a child is best. Also two loving parents who have money. And we can go on with the ideal
     
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    I am not the one who believes that I said “if a man doesn’t go nuts over a woman, he’s insecure “ that’s extremist thinking.black and white, no gray
     
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    Didn’t your father pay child support?
     
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    yes, one hundred dollars a month for two kids..
     
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    I bet you already have frown lines from worry about it.
     
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    The thing is that there should be no loveless households in the first place. Parents who do not love each other and who cannot be friends, should not have children. The ideal is loving parents, money is barely even secondary.
     
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    Or an abusive mother...
     
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    Your father sure wasn’t responsible..but your mom obviously was, she raised you
     
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    What planet do you live on? People marry because they are in love and then things change. You don’t know all about a person until you live with them. I have a friend who had all the qualities but her husband cheats on her. Should she stay with him? We don’t have utopia unfortunately. I have to assume you’re very very young
     
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    True
     
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    There s the extremism again....lol...I’m so worried I just took Valium
     
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    I can use this as an example why is Islam sweeping West, they are supported by Islamic Nations and they support immigration and its done by sending money for new schools and other support which also will help gaining converts. So is Feminism for example doing the same things funding heavily women's rights groups and religious imams sympathetic being the financial and support base yes or no. We can do this in other areas but the consideration is expanding Feminism.

    This can also fall into related areas such as do you do support they need most need access to credit and I solely through a charity KIVA give money to women in depressed areas to get businesses going and educations for them or children in small amounts of twenty five dollars (all my gift money for holidays goes into KIVA gift cards I can use to lend). I would argue people like me do more for women then the sophists of the universities its real help one woman wanted a sewing machine for her daughter and cloth and such and she got one thanks to lenders like me who as a non-Muslim lender can charge interest. So what are you doing FOR them to meet basic needs its hard to fight for the right to vote when you need money to send a daughter to school and to do that need employment often self-employment to earn the money to send a child to school. They don't want charity, they want credit and to work, because they are mature women who can work.

    Seriously, you seem to be high as a group on rhetoric and low on actually helping others. I can and am poor but I do what I can giving up luxuries and presents for helping others.
     
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    No, your friend obviously had bad judgement and choose a man who is an ********. How does me advocating for loving relationships mean that I advocate for non-loving relationships? I don't get it.

    If I am not mistaking, you are happily married, correct? Or at least you brag about your "Wall Street Husband" in each and every other post, so I will assume that it is a happy relationship. That is what everyone should strive for - You are a good example and how you, who live the life I preach, cannot see what I am talking about is kind of strange.
     
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    The nerve of you to say something so stupid like I don’t actually help others .I am not poor, I am wealthy and I probably donate more than you earn and work hard for causes .you know nothing about what women do for women don’t cloak yourself in self righteousness
     
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    No she didn’t make bad judgement.he was a wonderful man when she married him...people change, people fall out of love. Are you still with your first lov?
    Actually my wonderful”Wall st” husband died last week and the outpouring of love for him is overwhelming .it was an amazing marriage but it too had its ups and downs . Ideally everyone should have a marriage like ours, but in Reality people change
     
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    I just noted Islam as an example of social power and moving into the West they have a clear strong point nations backing that hard, Feminists should learn from them and do the same the other way as should atheists and anyone else with a desire to change the hearts and minds outside the West.

    You get women to not depend on men and their labor, get girls educated, make sure they have needs met then you might be able to do more. Why should a poor Pakistani woman care about voting or her rights when she needs money for food, clothes, housing and other things first. Feminism as in the West is a luxury of even over here in the USA of educated, well to do, pampered women who have it good largely your safe and don't have the kinds of gross poverty of a third world person. I met these people and got to know them in several nations when younger and they are good people, salt of the Earth and largely are struggling in life the men and women so its not easy for them. You say you help women okay I agree you do but what about all the other feminists so obsessed with Antifa, alternate sexual identity rights and so called threat of men raping them all at will like most men would who do far less.
     
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    I think it is fair to say they both made a bad choice now that we know the end of the story. Her husbnd was obviously a ******.

    My condolences.
     
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    Saying feminists are obsessed with and anTifa is saying like you are obsessed with the neo nazis. Antifa does not represent the women’s movement
    Poor Pakistani women shouldn’t vote because they are poor? What a silly statement. It’s when you vote and vote for people who care about you the changes are made like what happened in my country
     

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