Why Hillary Clinton was right about white women

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the Guardian: Why Hillary Clinton was right about white women – and their husbands
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    Think the above is about right, ladies ... ?
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    So women can't be trusted to make decisions because they are susceptible to peer pressure?
     
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    Bullshit.
     
  4. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Bullshit" who? Me or LilMike ... ?

    You might want to quote the forum member to whom you are responding so that individual knows to whom your post is directed ...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm aware of more cases the other way around. Husbands reluctantly kowtowed to their wives to keep everything peachy.

    A lot of men in this election were pretty divided on which candidate they were going to vote for, or didn't feel much desire to head to the voting booth at all.
     
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  6. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not peer pressure. Peer-pressure might be conceived to mean "other women peers". (Peer = a person who is the same age or has the same social position or the same abilities as other people in a group). Keyword: "group".

    The pressure/influence is brought within their family, and namely their husband. If you wish to think that men and women are "peers in marriage", then yes the word is acceptable. Unfortunately, differences in income have statistically prevented this from happening. And, yes, this is changing as more women become educated and obtain jobs at the same salary level as men. But, full income equality is not yet attained in the US between sexes.

    If a woman is taking "direction" from her husband (or parents) in any given situation, she is hardly a "peer" (alike, coequal, associate). And, evidently, the stats show that is is indeed the case as regards political decision making in a statistically significant percentage as given by the study mentioned in my comment above* ...

    *Quote: "The key distinction, according to Kretschmer’s research, is that single women tend to cast votes with the fate of all women in mind, while women married to men vote on behalf of their husbands and families ..." Meaning, to me, the former (single women) come to their own conclusions regarding a political outlook/opinion, whilst the latter (married women) tend to adopt the conclusions of their close-family. This could obviously change over time.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What they actually did in the voting booth was their business and nobody else's - or did mommy have to sign-off on their ballot as well in your state ... ?
     
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    So what you're saying is that married women can't be trusted to make decisions about voting?
     
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    Yes, men “kowtow”to their wives for things that aren’t important...not the big things. It reminds me of the expression, “women run the home, and me run the world
     
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    not really the case
    These husbands can't hide who they voted for, unless they resorted to lying.
    It will come up in a conversation.
     
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    This is silly if you have noticed a lot of men are opting out of marriages and relationships. Women fear if this continues that men will no longer help them. They feel feminism has gone too far. I guess it doesn't matter because #metoo crap is making it worse. Women do not want to be alone they want male companionship but when men are getting treated like garbage they are opting out.
     
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    I love when someone can take a paragraph of idiocy and distill it into succinct reality.

    It really is an art. Well done.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If men and women are equal, then they are peers.

    Are you saying men and women are not equal?
     
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    Hillarious. She's still trying to figure out why she lost, apparently. Now she's blaming those she pretended to represent.

    Meantime in the real world ... we've been voting women into power since long before Hills pant-suited herself into American politics.
     
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    Men and women are not equals. Men and other men are not equal. Equality is a flawed concept.
     

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