Why Homosexuality Must NOT Be Recriminalized!

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  1. cd8ed

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    Belief in God is based on superstition — that is why it is called belief and not fact.
    Belief that your version of God is the correct one ignoring thousands of over variations is arrogance.
    There are some trump supporters that are domestic terrorist that does not mean all of them are.

    Your demand is nonsensical. You have moved on from demanding evidence that homosexuality occurs in nature to now demanding that we understand and can quantify what an animal is actually thinking while ignoring a lifelong bond pairing. Natural simply means occurring in nature, all of these extra demands that you’re throwing out are irrelevant to that definition.

    Too bad you don’t apply this level of scientific rigor to your superstitious beliefs

    Homosexuality is natural
     
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    Fifteen percent (14.7%) of the 1.1 million same-sex couples in the United States in 2019 had at least one child under 18 in their household, compared with 37.8% of opposite-sex couples, according to a U.S. Census Bureau analysis of Current Population Survey (CPS) data released this week. [Census.gov]
     
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    You are a sick individual. You should go to a doctor. It’s not natural! There was no point in my life I ever had a remote natural instinct to do either. What a joke!
     
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    That doesn’t answer my question as to how many homosexuals there are in America as a whole or point out the study he was suggesting
     
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    Murder, rape, cannibalism and tons of other vile acts are all natural — as they occur in nature.
    Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s correct
     
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    The number of homosexuals, or people with same-sex attraction, is based largely on self reporting. That percentage is insanely difficult to ascertain because of the bias that exists within self reporting. That’s one of the many reasons that we have seen the number of self reported individuals with same-sex attraction go from around 2% 10 years ago to almost 10% in younger generations on the most recent poll from Gallup.

    We simply don’t know
     
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    Then it stands to reason that there is no way to accurately do a study that shows the rate of child molestation per group.
     
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    It’s not natural. If it were natural everyone would have those tendencies. Breathing is Natural, walking is natural, laughing is natural, eating meat is natural, to say killing and rape is natural completely moronic
     
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    This is an elementary level definition

    I don’t understand why, in every one of these threads, I have to post the definition of a word that should’ve been learned in kindergarten

    Murder occurs in nature, and thus is natural
    Rape occurs in nature, and thus is natural
    Clothes do not occur in nature, and thus are not natural
    Cars do not occur in nature, and thus are not natural

    The only thing that is moronic is asserting that a definition does not exist because you don’t like it
     
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    That is correct, we can make assumptions but that is about as far as we can currently go
     
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    Nature allows for cloths as much as it allows for murder or rape. It’s a human action that allows both to exist? So how can you say one is but the other is not
     
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    Natural only means existing in nature — not artificial
    Cloth does not exist in nature as it is not naturally occurring

    I really don’t understand what part of the definition you’re having trouble with
     
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    Clothes exist in nature by our natural design. Nature gave us the hands and mind to make them so why not call them natural. Hell if rape and murder is natural just because we make them happen then so is cloths
     
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    Not in my case. I was already out of the closet, and my future wife knew it! She fell in love with her GBF. . I played a role, like a character in a play and I played my heart out!. But she was my 'soul mate', it was a small town, there were no happy representations of gay life in the media and no internet at all, and there were no personal role models from which I could base any hope of a long lasting relationship. It seemed like my choices were loneliness, promiscuity ( in the era of GRID/ AIDS) or marrying a woman who truly loved me and wanted me - as long as I stayed faithful. Heck I might even be a father! We just learned never to talk about my orientation. It hurt her too much.

    I kept my end of the' bargain', never cheated, had three kids but as you can guess, it led to depression and a lack of emotional fulfilment on both sides.

    Coming out is not always the end remedy here, if you are young, socially awkward, insecure, you need access to real mentors who can show you that literally every narrative you see in front of you in movie, television etc, need not end in tragedy, sickness or isolation. All I had on the other side of the ledger was the occasional Phil Donahue Show! Those gay young men were angry, proud and extraverted or they would never have been there. What I needed to see were content happy gay couples with long term sustained drama free relationships, because what I was desperately seeking was a loving marriage like my parents had.

    Its not all that illogical a decision, given the prism of representations and options I was stuck with.
     
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    I am no longer arguing the definition of a word you so desperately wish to distort.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiological_theories_of_rape

    Cheers
     
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    You’re the one distorting it. You just don’t like it when others twist words.

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    So rape and murder isn’t human caused? Dude you’re the one trying to make murder and rape sound natural. No one who does that is of mind to tell me what a definition means
     
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    Murder is akin to violence causing death — some animals do indeed kill one another for sport
    Rape, likewise, akin to coercive sex — which is fairly frequent in the animal kingdom

    If you want to add in the requirements that these terms are an act of humans only then all behavior is natural
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...s-are-genetically-predisposed-kill-each-other
    https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-l...history-rape-biological-bases-sexual-coercion
     
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    By religion do you mean the Muslim religion?
     
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    Would you mind giving us examples where animals were convicted by peers?
     
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    I didn’t add it, Oxford did. Just cause it doesn’t fit your definition of natural doesn’t change the fact. Your arguing definitions so there it is
     
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    But it is natural. Aside from the fact that by your logic, masturbating is unnatural because your hand wasn't technically designed for that purpose, over 1,500 species have exhibited bisexual and homosexual behavior
     
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    Most of the threads here against same-sex marriage from the Christian version of God. So no. I do not mean the Muslim religion, all religion
     
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    I would like you to show me an elephant whacking off!!!!
     
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    You are the one arguing “Clothes exist in nature by our natural design.” and then move on to post “not made or caused by humankind
     
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