Let me say, from the off, I do regard the cause of the Palestinian people as a righteous one, what could be more so than to fight for your very survival, right? However, I find myself underwhelmed by the Palestininian movements, that operate in my country, anyway. They may differ in some other country. For one thing, too many of them strike me as being like those (middle class in reality), college kids, that go through a phase of putting a Che Guevara flag up, because it is vogue, and they think it is a cool and almost trendy thing, to get into. I am not saying they are all like that, but my feeling is it does make up a fair % of them, that psyche. To me, they are, if anything an insult to the Palestinians, for, to the real people there, this is not a game, not a fashion. Also, rest assured, that in a year or three, they will either find some other cause vogue, or they will have lost interest. What use are they? None, right? Then there is good % who think that they can sock it to Zionism, if they refuse to buy their dates and fruit. I find that tokenistic, and, in some cases, merely a way for people to feel good about themselves, and in front of their circle. Perhaps they do not realise quite who and what it is they are dealing with, if they really believe that methods like that, are going to be anything other than lip service? Not saying that BDS cannot work, but how much impact has it had, so far? If not much, then does that not show it is time to review tactics, rather than plod on with the same one's? Then there are those that wish to claim exclusivety over it, and almost impose a sort of political criterea that you must fit, in order to find the cause truly righteous. Being left leaning, tends to win you kudos. Being very PC is bonus points. Of course, in doing this, what they serve to achieve, is that a lot of their events are poorly attended, and their mass appeal remains untapped, since most are not relating to how they deliver their message, and all the rest of what I have said. Curiously, while they spaz out about Zionism in the ME, they say little about it, when it is under their own nose, indeed, they go out of their way not to talk about it, if they can. I would also doubt how many would be prepared to go all the way, for their cause. To me, if a given cause means that much to you, then you either go all the way, or you may as well get out of the game. How many would risk losing their liberty or life, for their cause? There is barely a cause in history, that has not been achieved by sacrifice. But these guys tend to think that if they behave nice, talk sweet, then maybe they will be invited to peace talks, so that a nice wee deal can be brokered.
I agree with you completely. This is a real conflict, not time for self-serving ideological BS. That being said, I think the way Israel is treating the Palestinians is hastening its own destruction. They've slowly but steadily been losing support in Europe and even in the US now among some of the general population.
This is about the first thing you've ever said in regards to this conflict that makes any sense. I agree that the Palestinians have not fought for their right for sovereignty and until such time that they do they deserve no respect. Stomping around, waving your arms in the air, and pointing to a piece of paper as proof that you belong there is pointless. Freedom has never been given and must be earned, sometimes at great sacrifice but its a necessary step if you want to stake your claim. The Palestinians sat back while the Great Jewish Migration happened and remained silent as the Arab World turned their back. They entrusted others to give them peace and now they are paying for it. If Palestine wants to be recognized they have to start fighting for it. Launching a few missiles here and there is not a revolution. They need to resist Israeli occupation with every man woman and child until the cause becomes so great that other nations must choose sides. If a nation wants to build a settlement in my backyard I would burn it down. If they send in soldiers to defend it I will kill them If they send in tanks to defend their soldiers I will blow them up If they send in fighters to destroy me I will shoot them down. Or die trying. That is the only way Palestine will attain what they wish. Untli they do I give my full support to Israel.
It's not a fashion, or a trend, and should not be treated as such. It's like those American Jews, or some who are even not Jews, that flap their little Israel flag around, and think they know what they are talking about. It's easy to be an armchair fan, right?
Probably a bigger barrier to the Palestinian cause is the organizations that represent them. PLO, Hamas etc., deligitimize the Palestinian claims, and give Israel justification in the wrongs that they do. And when you compare Israel's government and it's actions to the government of Palestine and their actions, it's no wonder why Israel hasn't been "stomped" yet. Though not entirely in the right, they are - at least - less in the wrong. If Israeli citizens decided that they wanted to bomb the **** out of Palestine, Israel wouldn't turn a blind eye to such crimes.
