Why I dislike the AGW cult

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    There are nearly a thousand universities in the US, and equally that throughout Europe and the free world. Universities are the center of science ( among other disciplines). Can you name any that think AGW is a religion.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Irrelevant.

    Science is not a "degree" or a "university course" or a "background". It is a set of falsifiable theories.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Science is not "universities". It is a set of falsifiable theories.

    Universities do not define religion; philosophy does.
     
  4. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Please read my quote instead of making up your own. The science used everywhere and in every disapline is taught, developed and reviewed in universities everywhere. Is that clear ? Which university calls it a religion ? The science used in every area in your life, is a religion ? Is the science based in computer science, medical science and the science of climate all a religion ? Or. Is it just the science around AGW because you believe the fossil fuel industry campaign’s and The Trump China hoax.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Universities teach religious study. They define religion. Have you ever been to one ? They teach and define philosophy.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    It’s not irrelevant.
    If you have no training in science, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’ve made so many false conjectures, it’s obvious you have little.
    Just more woo woo, gibberish talk about something you know nothing about.
     
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    I did.

    Universities do not define science, AGW, nor religion.

    Science is not religion. It is a set of falsifiable theories.
    Religion is not science. It is an initial circular argument with other arguments stemming from it.

    False Dichotomy Fallacy.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they do.

    No, they don't. Philosophy defines what religion is, and provides the reasoning for that definition.

    Yes, I have.

    Yes, they do.

    No, they don't.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Philosophy is an academic discipline. It’s developed through education. Your wrong about philosophy defining religion. Every religion defines itself. Philosophy was developed as an academic discipline in our education system, including colleges and universities.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Do you go through life taking half statements and just making s.h.i.t up about them ?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is fortunate that those of us concerned about the current Climate Change issue do not care if you do not like us...we are not however a cult. It is also quite interesting that you complain about issues being brought up while you bring up lionfish which are pretty much irrelevant.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What cracks me up is the AGW loonies do not believe they are a cult.

    The lionfish problem is a human problem in the beginning. Humans purchased pets. And dumped their pets into water going to the sea or directly into the sea. And the cultists think that problem is no problem. A lot of humans fear the lion fish. And are trying to solve the problem.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't eat anything to cool Earth

    But eat Lionfish, which are delicious
    And you save our reefs
     
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    I think cult is the perfect wording. You are fanatical true believers that can't abide anyone who doesn't believe.
     
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    You seem to "Think" quite a few things that defy reality.....almost a skill.
     
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    Another characteristic of a cult member. Villify non believers.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's say as an example that since Fusion has yet to be proven to be economically feasible, i reject the experiments or money or even fusion as applied, they might go hmmmmmm he is not in favor.

    Let us want freedom from their draconian claims about climate and we catch all kinds of hell.

    From the cult members.

    Recall all the hullabaloo called cold fusion?

    I wish I then had video.

    An old man showed up at my machine shop office one day. He wanted to show me a device.

    I says, sure ... show it to me.

    He took a pair of round reflective devices ... such as are attached to the sides of truck trailers ... and had taped them to each other at the edges with what looked to me like, black electrical tape.

    He placed this object on my office desk. It sat there reflecting light.

    He pulls out a magnet and held it above the reflectors and they spun.

    It happened around 1970 I believe so forgive my less than perfect recall.

    But as I recall as they spun on the desk, like some special effects in some space movie, he had removed the magnet and they kept spinning until he picked up the device.

    He asked me to tell him why this man made object kept spinning. Well, I did not explain it.

    Perhaps some poster can explain this mystery.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Bingo. That is the purpose of anti-fossil-fuel hysteria: to stop people from thinking about real problems that could have real solutions, and devote all their attention to a non-problem whose only proposed "solution" is completely impossible but achieves the main goal of MAKING THEM FEEL GUILTY ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T CHANGE. It's a permanent, all-purpose distraction: a "problem" that can never be solved, is actually beneficial, but makes people feel guilty. Sorta like religion and sex.
     
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    It's the perfect virtue signaling avenue. Except those in power "committed" to fighting global warming keep flying around in private jets and increasing their carbon footprint. Hilarious.
     
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    And many measures would be simple if ocean levels are rising just start by stop giving money to rebuild in these vulnerable areas and be clear the government will not offer flood insurance if the risk is too high flooding will be a reoccurring issue this includes hurricane risk. But offer funds if they will move out of the risky area to less risky area one time. In my mind only essential commercial demands like shipping and key industries that must be ocean side should get support. Hotels, tourism and other ventures including housing shouldn't and be discouraged.

    And if a city or location is unprotected without massive efforts then tell these cities public works will not be done to a level to fully protect them.

    Sure we might lost a large portion of NYC over a century but the rest can relocate and if done gradually will be something we can do Wall Street could move to Denver if it had to, the UN moved to another country and well you get the idea. Just do this along the coasts and major waterways do real changes and public works to get the better bang for the few bucks we really can spend on these.
     
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    Define 'climate change'... Remember, definitions cannot be circular.

    Yes, you are.

    Define 'climate change'.
     
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    The biggest problem with many urban areas build on landfill on the coast is that these cities are sinking at a much higher rate than the 1 foot per century sea level rise rate.
     
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    Do you have a list of the American cities built on landfills?
     
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    Parts of NYC, SF, and Venice are built on landfills. Miami and New Orleans as well.
     
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    So, just because it's worth the nit picking here... Universities aren't their own voices. A member of a University can have an opinion, members of a University can have an opinion, but likely the University as a non thing never has an opinion because it cannot. So, asking the ridiculous question that any university thinks anything is well, asking for something clearly outside of that things ability to actually produce the comment, or opinion, that you requested. Now, if you are asking, who amongst you posting think AGW is a religion, I, for one, have said that I think it is so many times, I can't count. I say this, and continue to say this because the only way you can truly support the AGW message is to have immense faith in a narrative that frankly has zero evidence that is quantifiable or can be tested in a repeatable way, that makes the conclusions of AGW anything other than a profession of deep, abiding faith. Religion in other words. Now, you might not like that assessment, but you cannot escape the facts that underpin it.
     
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