Why is Barr holding a news conference tomorrow?

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Grand jury testimony and the underlying evidence in the Mueller Report can easily be reviewed by members of Congress with simple request to the appropriate court from the attorney general. Barr not only refuses to do this, but it is expected the DOJ will fight the Congressional subpoena in the courts. The court fight would take months, possibly a year or two.

    Barr is supposed to be working for the American people and guarding our Constitution. He is not Trump's lawyer.

    Why is it Barr is unwilling to provide the full Mueller Report to the American people's representatives in Congress?

    By virtue of his bias and based on his performance so far, which includes lying to the people about the report, the answer is obvious. Barr is attempting to protect Trump.

    It is anyone's guess why this proud man decided to degrade himself so badly. He is being so obvious. It is hope that Trump is paying him a lot of money. Barr is earning it. He is sacrificing his self-esteem.

    Trump is a coward.

    On Thursday he cancelled a scheduled press conference and skipped town hours after the Mueller Report was released. Being a coward, he could not face the White House press corps.

    So, what does he do? He goes to Florida and goes on a Twitter rant for four days. He would not dare make those comments in front of reporters who would ask damaging questions. So, he goes to his favorite private room at Mar-a-Lago and types away, knowing no one is around to question what he is saying.

    What a pathetic little man. Well, he can't stay away from Washington forever. How much longer will he dodge reporters?
     
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    When are you going to address post #85?
     
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    I don't answer off topic questions. Do you have any questions about this analysis?

    One thing was crystal clear from Barr's press conference on Thursday and before the Mueller Report was released: No collusion! Barr's willingness to echo Trump's favorite two-word mantra was evident throughout his remarks.

    "The special counsel confirmed that the Russian government sponsored efforts to illegally interfere with the 2016 presidential election but did not find that the Trump campaign or other Americans colluded in those schemes," Barr said.

    It's true: Mueller did not establish that there was a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to influence the 2016 presidential election. But Mueller uncovered "multiple links" connecting Trump aides to Russian officials and that there was at least some willingness to collaborate -- like Donald Trump Jr. and the Trump Tower meeting. Mueller could not prove conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Also, Barr's use of the word "collusion," which he repeated multiple times, raised some eyebrows in the legal community. In the report, Mueller intentionally steered clear of that political phrase because it "is not a specific offense" under US law, "nor is it a term used in federal criminal law." Strange Barr would use it.

    Barr cleared Trump of obstruction. "After carefully reviewing the facts and legal theories outlined in the report... the deputy attorney general and I concluded that the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction of justice offense," Barr said.

    Mueller did not struggle with whether there was enough evidence to bring a case of obstruction of justice. The challenge was that they amassed compelling evidence but couldn't indict a President even if they wanted to, DOJ rules.

    Here's what the report actually said: "...if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred."

    Barr downplayed the role that DOJ guidelines played when Mueller considered whether Trump violated the law. Internal DOJ policies say that a sitting president cannot be indicted. The policy comes from the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC).

    "We specifically asked him about the OLC opinion and whether or not he was taking the position that he would have found a crime but for the existence of the OLC opinion," Barr said at his press conference. "And he made it very clear several times that that was not his position."

    The OLC opinion had a major impact on Mueller's internal deliberations. In effect, Mueller framed his entire obstruction investigation around the notion that he couldn't bring any charges against Trump even if he found ironclad evidence against him, because of the OLC opinion. He specifically left the matter up to Congress.

    "Special Counsel Mueller did not indicate that his purpose was to leave the decision to Congress," Barr said.

    "With respect to whether the President can be found to have obstructed justice by exercising his powers under Article II of the Constitution, we concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice," Mueller said.

    Barr became a Trump lackey. It is difficult understand why this proud professional lowered himself to this role, sacrificing every bit of his self-esteem.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/barr-versus-mueller-report/index.html
     
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    Trump refuses to allow an unredacted version of the Mueller Report to be given to Congress.

    Trump will fight a subpoena issued by the House Judiciary Committee for former White House counsel Donald McGahn to testify.

    Trump is breaking the law by not turning over six years of tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee. The chairmen, Richard Neal, is relying on invoking an authority enshrined in the tax code granted only to the tax-writing committees in Congress that gives the chairmen of the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee the power to request tax information on any filer. It says that the Treasury secretary “shall” furnish the information. Mnuchin, following Trump's orders, flew through today's deadline.

    The White House has instructed a former official who was in charge of the security clearance process to not comply with a House subpoena demanding his appearance for an interview. The White House told the former official, Carl Kline, who now works at the Defense Department, to not appear at Tuesday's deposition.

    "I'm having a good day," Trump said at a White House event for the Wounded Warrior Project. "It’s called no collusion, no obstruction.”

    For an innocent man, Trump is acting quite guilty. He is giving every indication that he is very guilty. Innocent Presidents do not try to hide the truth from Congress and the American people.
     
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    Trump is becoming a pariah. Trump has spurned the annual White House Correspondents’ dinner for the past two years, and now he’s taking it a step further, ordering administration officials to boycott the dinner. It may please his political base, much of which Trump has convinced the media is “the enemy of the people,” while alienating everyone else.

    Trump is going out of his way to make himself the least popular President in modern American history.

    Putin is immensely pleased with his puppet.

    Trump's fans are equally pleased with Trump's performance. Washington is being torn apart. What's not to like?
     
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    Another Trump fan speaks. Geez, we cannot allow these people to choose our President again.

    Instead of your foul vitriol, why don't you try defending Trump for a change?

    You can't. Well, that explains it.
     
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    This is an FBI investigation. It digs deep into one's life including things which have nothing to do with the crime in question.

    If that is the case within an unredacted report, then it is very fair to Trump's post-Presidency, due process or private life's events, to not reveal some parts of Mueller's report if they are irrelevant to the Russia collusion ordeal.
     
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    Post #85 is a direct, rebuttal response to one of -your- posts.
    You won't address it, because you know you cannot.
    Disagree?
    When are you going to address post #85?
     
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    "We (fascists) cannot allow" :lol: Trump got all the defending he needed. Crazy Rudy took care of business. Mueller had no choice but to cme clean on collusion, because all the outreaches by "Russians" were either orchestrated by Fusion GPS or the FBI. Mueller punted on obstruction, because Bob's scared to death. No friends in the GOP, and no civlity in the DNC. OP: "Why is Barr ... "? Because Bob Mueller is a coward. Bob's been humiliated by crazy Rudy ... and his investigators, and his witnesses. Once Bob admits there wasn't obstruction, the mob mentality (D)'s and their radical SJW allies are going to make his life hell. Better get used to Barr holding pressers.
     
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    This is an investigation of the President. Congress has the Constitutional duty of oversight of the Presidency.

    That is not for Presidential appointee to decide. That is for Congress to decide.
     
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    And, The Democrats will decide to not impeach, because they do not believe Obstruction rises to the level of an impeachable offense.
    Thus, Trump will remain your President until at least January 2021.
     
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    Not his personal life episodes. And that also goes for any unBecoming actions that are not related to Russia nor collusion. If any entities plan on taking him to court, after his Presidency, then right now as in today he is still entitled to due process, for those upcoming litigations. So those elements of fact-finding need to be kept a secret.

    Even a 5-yr-old can comprehend the Dem's deceit, here, in wanting that unredacted version so they can leak all of the evidence to the public ---which then poisons the minds of potential jurors for Trump's post-2024 court cases.

    Exactly.

    However it is the US AG's job, legislatively, to protect the citizenry from any GOVT's unfair practices. And last time I checked, Trump, is in fact a USA citizen.
     
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump



    As has been incorrectly reported by the Fake News Media, I never told then White House Counsel Don McGahn to fire Robert Mueller, even though I had the legal right to do so. If I wanted to fire Mueller, I didn’t need McGahn to do it, I could have done it myself.

    4:47 AM - Apr 25, 2019

    Here is what the Mueller Report said.

    After the story broke [Trump ordered McGahn to fire Mueller], the President, through his personal counsel and two aides, sought to have McGahn deny that he had been directed to remove the Special Counsel. Each time he was approached, McGahn responded that he would not refute the press accounts because they were accurate in reporting on the President’s effort to have the Special Counsel removed. The President later personally met with McGahn in the Oval Office with only the Chief of Staff present and tried to get McGahn to say that the President never ordered him to fire the Special Counsel. McGahn refused and insisted his memory of the President’s direction to remove the Special Counsel was accurate.

    Now the question is simple. Do we believe the former White House counsel and supporting testimony who swore an oath or do we believe the tweet of a pathological liar?
     
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    The Democrats will decide to not impeach, because they do not believe Obstruction rises to the level of an impeachable offense.
    Thus, Trump will remain your President until at least January 2021.
     
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    What a curious choice of words. Congress is not interested in Trump's sex life. They are interested in his financial records.

    What a ludicrous assumption, and that is what it is, an assumption. Congress wants to determine if his income is derived from foreign entities, possibly hostile foreign governments (Russia), and if his financial picture is determining his policies, particularly foreign policy. For example, why did he fall in love with Kim Jong Un, and why did he reject American intelligence in favor of Putin's sincerity at Helsinki?

    Why is Trump fighting this? Why is he the first President in 50 years not willing to release his tax returns. He obviously is hiding something. What is it?

    You seem to forget Trump is the President. We need to know if the sources of his income are driving his policies.
     
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    What criminal activity is he under investigation for that requires Congress to see his tax records?
     
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    What it is, is that showcasing his tax returns, are not required in order to be U.S. President. All that is required is, proof, that he is not involved with (running) his empire while he is the U.S. President. And he's already proven that. End of story.


    You seem to forget, President Bush43 was an oil man. By which the sources of that decades of, income, did in fact drive his policies while in office. Plus you could consider how Obama was in fact Ashkenazim's layman, for decades, and their Money/Power/Respect did vehemently drive his policies while in the oval office.

    Now, guess what that makes you into?!! For you not being, fair, and let Trump have his turn doing exactly what Bush43 and Obama did?
     
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    As has been incorrectly reported by the Fake News Media, I never told then White House Counsel Don McGahn to fire Robert Mueller, even though I had the legal right to do so. If I wanted to fire Mueller, I didn’t need McGahn to do it, I could have done it myself.

    4:47 AM - Apr 25, 2019

    Here Trump is lying for two obvious reasons.

    First, Trump never does his own dirty work. He always asks others to do it for him. In this case, it was the White House counsel. Other times it has been his chief of staff. Picture Trump meeting with four Russian operatives in Trump Tower in June 2016. Never happen, right? Trump sent three of his lackeys.

    Second, Trump could not fire Mueller. Either Sessions or Rosenstein could fire Mueller because Mueller was working for the theoretically independent DOJ.
     
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    Who said it was a requirement?

    Trump did not provide any such proof. Although he promised to vacate his holdings, he lied. He never did. Theoretically, he turned control over to his son, but he did not place his holdings into a blind trust. I keep wondering why he ran for President.

    Now you can understand why there is concern for the sources of his income. He still deriving income from the Trump Organization.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. Bush 43 placed all his holdings into a blind trust, but there is a serious question as to how much he owned. Daddy owned a lot, but Bush junior? I honestly don't know.

    I do know this. Bush 43 turned over his tax returns and there was no issue.

    Trump has not. Why? You still haven't answered that question. Of course, you can't, but the question is quite important.

    Huh? What are you talking about?

    Obama, too, released his tax returns. Again, no issues. You can't seem to understand. That is the point.

    Exactly my point. Trump should do what Bush 43 and Obama did. Put his properties into a blind trust and release his tax returns.

    Obama didn't own enough property. He didn't have to put anything into a blind trust.
     
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    At issue today is executive privilege and Trump's position that he will refuse all access to White House documents, staffers, and former staffers (McGahn, for example). That access is being submitted by a co-equal branch of our government. The question becomes, can Trump hide from our representatives in Congress?

    He can try, but it is political suicide. So is hiding from Americans. The White House has not had a press conference in 48 days. In the 28 months of his Presidency, Trump has held two press conferences. Both were utter disasters and it is expected he will not hold another. A secret Presidency is also political suicide.

    Also, he is destined to lose in the courts. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this issue in United States v. Nixon.

    Trump has asserted a generalized need for confidentiality. In other words, he is banning everything -- he even said so -- as opposed to forbidding access to a specific document or the testimony of a specific White House staffer or former staffer. In U.S. vs. Nixon, the Court ruled "because Nixon had asserted only a generalized need for confidentiality, the Court held that the larger public interest in obtaining the truth in the context of a criminal prosecution took precedence.

    So, Trump can try, but all he is doing is delaying the inevitable and that will become a political liability in an election year as slowly, but surely, the courts will rule against him.

    Trump can't use executive privilege to obstruct justice where he is the subject of the investigation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege#United_States_v._Nixon
     
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    "We're fighting all the subpoenas," Trump declared on Wednesday.

    The White House has not had a press conference in 48 days. In the 28 months of his Presidency, Trump has held two press conferences. Both were utter disasters and it is expected he will not hold another. A secret Presidency is also political suicide.

    It is easy to see why Trump is shutting down the White House. He doesn't trust his closest advisors.

    Has anyone noticed?

    The only one talking for the White House is Trump. Sanders doesn't count because her brain is fused with Trump's, which would explain why she is just as much a prolific liar as Trump is. Also, interviews on the Trump Network -- er, Fox News -- don't count either because they are scripted and approved by the White House. Congressional hearings don't count, either, because the staffer presence is required.

    I am talking about your day in, day out, regular news fare. The only one we hear from is Trump. There is not a peep out of SecState Pompeo as Kim is sabre rattling and having summits with Vladimir Putin. Nothing from NSA Bolton. Our national security may be at issue, but chief what's his name at DHS is silent as a mouse. Probably doesn't want to get fired like his predecessor. We haven't heard a word from CIA director Haspel in a year. Most probably didn't even know her name.

    So, what seems to be the problem? Doesn't Trump trust his closest advisors to speak for the White House? It would seem so.

    I speak from the standpoint of someone who watches, at a minimum, of three hours of news a day, including an hour of Fox a day as well as ABC, and CNN. Maybe I missed a story or two, but that is my general observation and I don't think it is wrong.
     
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    "We're fighting all the subpoenas," Trump declared on Wednesday.

    The White House has not had a press conference in 48 days. In the 28 months of his Presidency, Trump has held two press conferences. Both were utter disasters and it is expected he will not hold another. A secret Presidency is also political suicide.

    It is easy to see why Trump is shutting down the White House. He doesn't trust his closest advisors.

    Has anyone noticed?

    The only one talking for the White House is Trump. Sanders doesn't count because her brain is fused with Trump's, which would explain why she is just as much a prolific liar as Trump is. Also, interviews on the Trump Network -- er, Fox News -- don't count either because they are scripted and approved by the White House. Congressional hearings don't count, either, because the staffer presence is required.

    I am talking about your day in, day out, regular news fare. The only one we hear from is Trump. There is not a peep out of SecState Pompeo as Kim is sabre rattling and having summits with Vladimir Putin. Nothing from NSA Bolton. Our national security may be at issue, but chief what's his name at DHS is silent as a mouse. Probably doesn't want to get fired like his predecessor. We haven't heard a word from CIA director Haspel in a year. Most probably didn't even know her name.

    So, what seems to be the problem? Doesn't Trump trust his closest advisors to speak for the White House? It would seem so.

    I speak from the standpoint of someone who watches, at a minimum, of three hours of news a day, including an hour of Fox a day as well as ABC, and CNN. Maybe I missed a story or two, but that is my general observation and I don't think it is wrong.
     
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    Still waiting for your answer to post # 162.

    The Democrats will decide to not impeach, because they do not believe Obstruction rises to the level of an impeachable offense.
    Thus, Trump will remain your President until at least January 2021.
     

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