Why is education so poor?

Was watching new again and they're trying to report that education is our key to the future but we are so far behind the rest of the world. Anybody know the anwser?

 

Because liberals are against the idea of anyone failing at anything so they reward even those with poor performance. Back when I was in school if I got poor grades they flunked me but now kids get special classes and extra help, hell they even get trophies for losing in sporting events.

They won't let you fire teachers that suck because the "union" won't allow it and they are ok with that, they won't let us withhold money from schools with horrible records, instead they say, "we need to send them more money to help them", the list goes on and on.

 

The definition of irony. See above sentence.

 

Lol, I was gonna mention that too but thought better of it.

 

Because kids today are spoiled bastards and their parents don't care.

 

The US is still using traditional teaching methods whereas the rest of the Western world is moving on to liberal teaching methods, not to be confused with teaching liberal ideology. Liberal teaching methods are things like authentic assessment where you learn by doing what you are learning. American school children are much more likely to learn by being told.

 

HAhahahahahah

 

The US relies on too much standardised testing, which is only really useful for diagnostic purposes, not for summative assessment. Standardised tests are too low level and encourage, where they are used for summative assessment and/or the drawing of things such as league tables to compare schools, teaching to the test. This can make it look like, in the league tables at least, that schools are doing great, but the students are coming out with very low levels of understanding of the topics involved.

Then you have the issue of No Child Left Behind which was nicknamed Every Child Left Behind. It was basically like a convoy at war, you move at the pace of the slowest ship, or in the case of a classroom, the slowest child. It didn't allow the moving ahead of more advanced children because that would be leaving the other children behind. With this everyone was left behind.

 

Yeah. we really need to try to be more like Europe.

The problem is that the left saw that they could not win elections with their ideas. They realized they were going to have to effect change through infiltration of society. Entertainment, government, media and ed. u. cation.

They did just that and now we have liberal, left-wing, marxist loving professors and teachers. Elementary and secondary school teachers have been so dumbed down that they actually think they are the reasonable ones. They are destroying the US with this perversion of diversity and multi-culturalism. With the election of Barrack Obama, we get to see just how successful their philosophy of infiltration has been.

 

Because Government is administering it.

 

Governments are administering it in all the countries beating the US.

 

South Korea and Finland the most notable.

 

True.

However, there is a unique set of challenges which come with administering education in such a culturally diverse country such as ours.

I'm not sure what kind of gobbedly-gook other countries school systems teach their kids, but here, it is a true mess.

 

Lots of things working together have led to the education results we have today. A few big ones are:

- A one-size-fits-none federal education system with requirements and mandates that don't work for many students and school systems.
- Terrible student/teacher ratios.
- Putting every student in one class instead of separating them based on learning speed and teaching each group as quickly as they can learn.
- Too accepting of non-performance from students.
- Not much incentive for teachers to perform well.

There are many other factors involved, but in the end if you want your children to learn, you'll have to work with them yourself, you can't trust the school system.

 

1/4 of Australia's population wasn't born here. A lot of these children learn English at school. We're beating the US.

 

If other school systems in the world are beating us... then we should be open enough to pay attention to what works for them. We don't have to do 'everything' the way they do it... but we surely need to put pride/tradition aside, for as much and as long as it takes to bring our systems up to par.

Also, in other Western nations... it appears they handle poorer families somewhat better than we do. I often wonder what it would be like for a poorer family to make it in Germany, as opposed to one here in the U.S.A.

That is important, because I have a relative who teaches here in America, and so often I have heard stories where she has had to purchase food and other school materials for the kids in their classes; and spent their own money to provide needed learning aids for use in the classroom. What I'm wondering is if the support systems for families in other Western nations indirectly improve the readiness of a given child for learning purposes. I personally remember certain poor kids in class as was growing up, they were usually more troubled (in some way) than the others.

I know that's only part of the equation, but according to my relative who teaches, small things can/do affect a child's ability to concentrate and learn. So, if those overseas have something going on which could 'teach' us a thing or two... we really should pay attention.

 

Well, in the United States, at least where I live, you must spend at least three years learning a second language. However, we do not necessarily have the greatest language options to choose from. When I had to choose a language in middle school, I had to decide between Italian, Spanish, or French. Nowadays, it is better to know Mandarin or Arabic.

 

You beat me to the punch.

 

LOL. Discover the contradiction of your comment.

You are saying that USA should try to be more like Europe. And after you start to talk about rubbish of left-wing, marxist loving teachers... And crappy things like that. When in Europe the education is closer to what you hate.

The working education in Europe is closer to the leftist ideas from your point of view.

And what kind of education would you like? Because you don't want to be like Europe because according to you is leftist rubbish.

 

Embarrassed to say...

The Worst States for Kids
1/27/12 - Oh, children. When will they learn? Never, it turns out, if they happen to live in one of the states in the U.S. with a poor record of quality of life for kids.

 

It's the teachers. They spend their time on more important endeavors. Such as working for PACs, making sure their union benefits are up to speed. Planning those yearly 3 month vacations. Then, of course, there's that full time job of indoctrinating the kiddies with liberal agendas.

 

It is incredible how today Republicans despise so much the Republicans of the past like Jefferson.

They introduced the public schooling, they were liberals. They introduced that the education should be accessible for everybody. But now all what the Republicans tried to do in the past is despised and hated by the today Republicans.

And the nonsense of unions, and giving just the fault to teachers, when they are not only fault of the bad education. To give an example I had really good teachers, and they are teaching now, but the level of education is lower than when I studied. That is only fault of the teachers, or there are other social causes that you always ignore.

 

Jefferson was the father of the democratic party not the republican, that honor goes to Hamilton. Try picking up a history book sometime.

 

Uhhh... the answer to what? Are you asking if "education" is the key to our future? If so, it depends on what you mean by "key" and what you think our future should be. Education was supposed to be "The Key to a Bright Future" in instances like the "Hitler Youth" camps, Soviet "education" and "re-education" camps, China's many "educational" initiatives during its Cultural Revolution, etc. - and so they were keys, but not to a very bright future. I guess it depends on what people think constitutes a desirable future. A society full of brain-neutered Leftbots, shuffling about like a herd of politically correct zombies isn't my idea of a desirable societal future. If that's the kind of society you desire then I guess you should be pleased with our present educational system since it certainly is a major key to taking us there.

 

There are two kinds of educators in America these days.

There are teacher that just happen to be members of a union and then there are union members that just happen to be teachers.

A common complaint from a minority of teachers is that most often they are caught in a bureaucratic war between school boards and unions. It is the battle between the two that creates a conveyer belt system of learning.

IMO when unions affect the ability of students leaning the curriculum unions must go. It’s that simple. Students are there to learn not be pawns in pissing contest.

Above all else the American people need to realize that students (K-12) spend a great deal of their adolescent lives living within a union culture. We send our children to schools that are built by union workers, maintained by union workers and educated by union workers that are not only funded by mostly nonunion taxpayers but the odds of a student graduating from a union controlled learning center and getting a union paying job are slim to none and yet for some reason a majority of union educators blame everybody outside the union for our failing education system. Can you see the problem here?

President Barak Hussein Obama has said time and again that we as a nation must look forward to the future. He has said many times that we can not go back to the old ways of living. Well President Barak Hussein Obama what are you doing to bring this old regime we call the education system into the future? The states are dealing with huge debts created by our current system of education. The unfunded pension liabilities between the states have been reported to be in the trillions of dollars. There is no way we can even think about looking to the future until we clean up the mess we created in the past.

Unions are governments ugly second cousin.