Why is having sex with a drunk woman considered rape?

You mean implicit gender bias.

 

No I mean if he admits she was saying no but he chose not to take it seriously then he could be charged

 

Hmmm,
Did you give the woman a field sobriety test,
How about a breath test..

Are you qualified to give the test.
When was your breathalyzer calibrated.

 

Well then, alcohol doesn't really have much to do with that legal situation then, does it?

 

a large percent of sex is between two drunk people as much sex come from going to bars, ect..... so who is the rapist?

if one gets drunk and has sex with someone, it's like getting drunk and driving... it's your fault

 

so if the man is drunk and a women has sex with him she is a sexual offender - who knew, many men are rape victims and did not even know it

 

At some point in one's intoxication that they can no longer ...get into a car to drive.

If she's so drunk she doesn't even know where her feet are...don't bone her.

get it?

 

If they’re both drunk?

 

I agree

 

You seem to think a few sips of alcohol is being drunk. We’re talking about being so intoxicated you cannot understand what’s going on around you. Yes if both of them are drunk then you have two incoherent people having sex which couldn’t be a crime. I don’t know what so complicated about this.

 

Nope your two eyes and a brain should be enough.

 

Don't you think that is moving toward a position that under any circumstances a sexual act of any kind can never be a wrongful act? And further down the line in the next increment that any act of any kind cannot be a wrongful act.

 

Here's what has been going on in California for the past eight years with ballot initivers.

The Democrats usually the Attorney General and the Secretary of State write what the voters will see on the ballot.

With Prop 47 the voters thought they were voting to legalize or decriminalize marijuana. In reality most felonies would be reclassified as misdemeanors and many treated as minor infractions like burglary as long as you don't steal anything worth more that $950.

Prop 57 was written on the ballot not listing what violent crimes would be reclassified as not being violent crimes like assault with a deadly weapon and you serve less time in prison if you are convicted.

Prop 6 during the last election was the gas tax and vehicle registration increase repeal, kinda like what they were rioting about in Paris all last week. But the Democrats wrote what you read on the ballot and no where did it mention the proposition was about repealing the gas tax increase and vehicle registration increases. Instead the Democrats went with if you vote for this propositing all of the bridges were going to collapse and you all are going to die.

How did a liberal hodad in "Surf City" defeat a libertarian Republican surfer ?
Ballot harvesting.

 

How are you going to prove the man wasn't drunk?

 

That's probably not valid when a cop issues a DWI

 

I think it depends on how drunk that person is. Some people are so drunk, that they aren't even making decisions at all, and just let you do whatever. Its like if you give yourself a date-rape drug and someone raped you, it would still be rape even if you did something really stupid.

The most important thing is that sex happen with consent, whether that is verbal or non-verbal. If you are not sure a drunk person who is not all there is really wanting sex, its best to just ask.

 

Sounds like another half-baked Liberal idea.

Anyone who bothers to actually sit down and think about the idea would see the trouble it would have working in practice.

If a woman is going to go to a setting where she is going to get completely inebriated, she should always always go with a group of lady friends and stay together.

 

many silly leaps of logic are being made is this thread common sense is short supply

if a woman is "drunk" which is pretty obvious (we're not talking about one or two drinks here) then she can't consent so just don't bother, it is rape...and where's the entertainment in having sex with drunk woman, might as well get one of those sex dolls...

and women can't rape a man, let's be serious here...if I'm not so drunk that I can consent and I don't want to have sex then it ain't gonna happen certain physical aspects to this that should be obvious, a woman can't force me to have an erection...and if a man is falling down/passed out drunk it ain't physically possible, she could molest me but intercourse/rape isn't possible...

 

so what you're saying is the victim is at fault?...if I take my dog for a walk at night and I get assaulted and robbed is it my fault?

we all have the right to go where and when we please without fear of assault...being trusting is not a crime and not an excuse to rape that person... nor is that person consenting to assault by being alone.

 

No, I'm saying you're brain dead. Touchy-feely emotions only and no logic.

 

Yes, but to admit that, you'd have to institute a gender disparity in the law, or at least in the application of the law.

 

erections are autonomic. You can absolutely be forced to have an erection, and you can absolutely be raped by a woman.

edited to add: "Rape" would depend on the state law. Some stated require you to be penetrated, to qualify as rape. But either way, the legal equivalent of rape by a woman can and does happen.

 

no, now you're being silly...

 

that's stupid...

 

let's get to the heart of the issue on hand....there are a lot of insecure men on this forum who are terrified of women and feel their masculinity threatened... the only way they can find a women to have sex with them is if they can get them inebriated first...and now they're worried their past drunk/rape/sex behavior is going to catch up with them...