Why is having sex with a drunk woman considered rape?

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  1. rahl

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    Indeed, stop the insanity.
     
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    dude, you're like a monty python video. You made something up, and you got called on it, proving your moronic statement is 100% fabrication.
     
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    Dude, you're like a sexual predator.
     
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    because I called you out for making a blatantly made up statement, and then proving you made it up? lol, ok buddy.
     
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    Your link even said...
     
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    Why
    Probably for similar reasons ****ing a drunk man would be considered rape..., unless you think that would be ok?
     
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    difference is, I admitted I made a mistake, then corrected it. You got caught making **** up, and you kept doubling down on it, after having it proven 100% false.

    I will continue pointing out when you make **** up, when I see it.
     
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    It is a rarity when men are raped by women so why not focus on the real problem rather than wasting time
     
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    How would you like to do that?
    Would you like the law to acknowledge a distinction between men and women?
     
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    What if they're both drunk?
     
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    I addressed that in the second post in the thread. The fundamental principles behind the law are relatively straight forwards, it's the implantation of those principles that become complicated.
     
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    So men are not worthy of consideration when they are the victims? This is the attitude that drive male victims to not report, along with the false concept that men can't be raped, especially by women.

    15% seems like a significant amount to me. I won't deny that the incident rate for men is less, but I have seen other studies that estimate that the unreporting rate is higher.

    How about we just drop the whole.gender bull crap and focus on getting people to not rape other people?
     
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    As Joe said, already addressed, but so you don't have to go looking for it...

    Noting that there are variations in the law from state to state, for the most part, they have both committed rape on each other. Here is where the sticky parts.come in. Unless a LEO actually encounters a rape as it is occuringo, the state doesn't just arrest an alleged attacker unless the alleged victim comes forth and makes a report. So if she reports it and he doesn't, he is the only one getting charged. Additionally, it is very common for men who do report being raped, even without a counter accusation, to have their claim dismissed. Even more so if the alleged attacker is a woman.
     
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    And YOU win the Christmas Turkey.
     
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    I am having problems here of determining whether that is sarcasm or you felt that I made a major and valid point.
     
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    It was absolute sarcasm. Make no mistake. The idea that someone (especially a male as per your input) is guilty of rape for having sex while drunk is laughable. Hell, I'd bet that a LOT of sex happens while one person, and quite possibly both, are drunk.
     
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    But what if the man is also too drunk to consent? Would two drunk people having sex be raping each other?
     
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    If you are having sex with someone who is inebriated enough that they cannot make informed decisions it is no different that if you had slipped them a date rape drug. It is, by the legal as well as current social definitions, rape. The rapist is not the one who is drunk, but the one who engages with the drunk person. Thus it is possible, if both people are drunk, for them to rape.each other simultaneously With that said, if the person who was inebriated does not consider the event to be an issue, the law will not be involved. The law will not involve itself on such a matter unless one or the other make the claim of rape.

    All of this, however, has nothing to do with the part of my post that you quoted dealing with report rates of male rape victims. Are making a claim that an adult male cannot be raped?
     
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    I'd like to see an instance where they were both inebriated and both claimed the other raped them.
     
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    You and me both. But this brings us right back to the dismissal issue. Even in a case where he is drunk and she is sober, his claim of rape is more likely to be dismissed than taken seriously. Unless either such case made national news I would have no clue on how to reaeares such a thing.

    Actually, while writing this I did find an article of men raped by women.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/11/assault-alcohol/509150/
     
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    Because women are entitled.
     

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