Why is having sex with a drunk woman considered rape?

No, but I’d like you to focus on the real issue.

 

The males are probably raped by other males there is no way 15% of males are raped by women

 

And women are believed??? Not only aren’t we believe we are labeled disgusting names like whores and sluts and tramps etc.
I really don’t believe that the rate is higher than 15%, I don’t even believe it’s 15% especially rape by a woman..rapists are usually men

 

they might be male, but they most certainly are not men

 

the truth is, drunk women often have sex with drunk men - neither is raping the other if it's mutual, neither can say the next day they would not of had sex with the other if they were sober so it's rape

many posters may not even be here today if a distant ancestor not of had drunk sex after hooking up at a bar

this kinda argument that drunk sex is rape is damaging to real rape victims

I disagree that it's rare when men are raped by women, it's rare that men report they were raped

 

BS. There are men in prison at this very moment who were convicted of rape because they had sex with a women who was either too drunk to remember consenting, or simply regretted it after they were sober, despite evidence that they were just as, if not more drunk then their "victims". There is a huge double standard where women are treated as unable to commit rape, and so are considered victims in these cases even if they would be considered a rapist if they were a man under the same circumstances.

 

And why are they men?

 

So whether you are raped by a man o a woman makes a difference? So a woman who is raped by another woman is not as big a deal a one raped by a man?

 

The article did not distinguish the gender of the rapist. That is you reading more into things with your bias. The article also distinguished that that rate was among college students. And yes women are believed at a much higher rate than men. That doesn't mean there aren't women who are not believed or there are not men who are.

 

Wow... how little you know. Why do you suppose women rarely reported rape? And if you think the rapist is a woman then so be it

 

Yes we have such a serious problem with women raping other women what’s wrong with me that I’m not aware of that (sarcasm alert)
You learn about a person by the side of the argument she or he chooses to defend

 

Because men can get away with it...because men can’t control themselves because men like to be dominant and demean women.i am speaking of rapists,

 

This is pure bullshit and I will not address it. For a man to go to prison because of rape there has to be so much proof..her word doesn’t do it

 

this is a dumb argument. It's impossible to determine weather there is or is not real consent in any situation where two people are alone together. It's always her word against his unless we're talking about an orgy or if there's a camera crew present. Even in those cases that woman could be intoxicated and we just don't know.

What you're saying is that all sex is potentially rape.

removing responsibility for things you do when you're drunk is way worse of a disaster.

And because this legal precedent has been set that a person cannot be held culpable further actions while intoxicated it's eventually going to lead to people who drink and drive. If some layman can argue it here in this thread ask a lawyer would have no trouble.

I think you should be held accountable for things to do when you're drunk this is a good reason to drink rresponsibly. If you can't be expected to do that then you shouldn't be drinking.

 

I don't understand this why are male victims of rape just negated because the perpetrator is also male? It's like you don't really give a **** about rape at all. It's only about protecting the victimhood status of women.

I remember when Kevin Spacey got me to do and what he did was way worse anything Lewis CK did. He violated a child. And there's quite a list of accusers some of them were minors. It seems that it would be reasonable because people with this particular brain damage don't just do this once.

So the only difference I can see between him and Harvey Weinstein is that Spacey's victims where male.

I often think about these young men who are abused sexually end the horror that they have to deal with everyday and the complete lack a support structure for them.

Why don't you care? Do you know how this shatters a person or does it only matter when it's a female?

 

so if a man is drunk and a woman is drunk and they have sex who raped who?

Women are allowed to get drunk have sex with somebody regret it then accuse a person of rape men or not.

That you don't even recognize a woman having sex with a drunk man as rape. You don't recognize male victims of right because they're men.

for his life to be ruined all the woman has to do is accuse him. Going to jail isn't the only bad thing that can happen to people.

If a man gets accused of rape by a woman and it becomes public no one's going to hire that man. I bet you still think Kavanaugh is guilty of whatever nonsense Ford came up with. Despite there being multiple witnesses that proved she was a liar. Because that seed was planted in your mind.

It's things like this that make me happy I'm homosexual. But I'm a person that loves men just as much as I love women the people I share my life with. And I tell you I had a quite sobering wake up call when I came out to my straight male friends.

 

I think the pendulum is slowly swinging back the other way and rightly so. The idea is that someone is so drunk/drugged they cannot consent but then if the other person is drunk/drugged how are they supposed to realise that? I post on the SVU board on previously/tv and Olivia Benson has gone from hero to villain, attitudes are thankfully changing.

 

My problem with Weinstein is that he admits using the casting couch and the behaviour of a great many of his accusers reek of that rather than rape. Spacey appears to be the gay equivalent of a womaniser but not necessarily criminally so.

 

Fondling a 16 year old boy is absolutely a crime.

And there are a string of accusers. It was enough for Cosby.

Oh but his victims were women.

As far as Weinstein goes I'm sure the way it worked is sort of a quid pro quo. And that isn't rape. Extortion perhaps.

 

Extortion would be if it had a negative consequence for them, this benefitted their careers. As I understand it there was some ambiguity over whether Spacey knew the age of his accusers, at least one had lied about his age in order to go drinking with Spacey.
I fully expect Cosby to be cleared on appeal, he is a victim of the current hysteria, 2 people sharing drink and drugs and then having sex under their influence is not rape

 

touche good sir you make a good point.

I think that should but legally it doesn't matter. If you mess with a minor you're in hot water.

that's refreshing. I thought I was the only person that didn't buy the whole allegation.

 

Billy Crystal once quipped; "Women need a reason to have sex. Men just need a place". If she is drunk, is she able to think of a reason?
Of course not, so you are guilty!

 

Billy Crystal once quipped; "Women need a reason to have sex. Men just need a place". If she is drunk, is she able to think of a reason?
Of course not, so you are guilty!

 

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Depends. If you can show that the minor provided you proof, even if it was later shown to be fake, a lot of judges are willing to let it go as having tried to do right.