Why is having sex with a drunk woman considered rape?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You shouldn't have to prove your Innocents.
     
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    Absolutely, we had a stated case in the UK where man was prosecuted for having sex with an 11 year old but this was an 11 year old he met in a nightclub. The jury found him innocent and rightfully so, he had a reasonable expectation she would be over 16. Unless we can prove they knew they were underage they should get the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    No, something many forget these days.
     
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    If "one night stands" were still a taboo, this would not be a question.
     
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  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Excellent point. One of the wonderful gifts from hedonism.
     
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  6. Renee

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    A man . Who is raped by another man is indeed taken seriously.
    But being an extremist I can’t think about rape fairly after all I must be protecting the victim hood status of women. (Sarcasm alert) LOL but you might educate yourself to learn that one in six women has been sexually assaulted .those are pretty alarming statistics
    What makes you think we aren’t concerned about Kevin Spacey? There are people like myself who are capable of focusing on more than one issue. I guess the next thing you’re going to say is I don’t care about lung cancer because I donate to breast cancer If you are so concerned about males being raped, join the movement and go after priests and pedophiles.
    It’s kind of sad that you think in such simple terms concluding that if somebody focuses on women, it must mean we don’t care about men. So sad
     
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  7. Renee

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    It’s rare men are raped by women because of physiological reasons
    A man should not have sex with a woman who is drunk..period!
     
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    I just hope you don’t have a daughter. You learn more about a person by the side of the argument he defends
     
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    Cosby will not be cleared...Dozens of women or drugged without knowing it. As I say you learn more about a person by the side of the argument he defends you defend rapists I defend the victims
     
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  10. Polydectes

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    I've heard the same statistic for men.
    the crucifixion of Harvey Weinstein and Louis CK and they didn't rape anybody or do anything without consent. They got me tooed because their victims were female.

    there is no movement.
    Metoo it's about women doing anything that takes to get into show business and then regretting it.

    you don't. You quoted the one in six statistic and it was supposed to be mind-blowing when it happens to women I don't even think you knew that there are similar statistics with regard to male victims.

    You do not care about men. They represent this fabricated patriarchy that exists only within your mind.
     
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    Why is it they get to claim that they had no capacity to consent to sex while at the same time they have the capacity to consent to drive if they get arrested for drinking and driving?

    We have to hold people responsible for what they do when they're drunk. and if a woman accuses a man of rape she should have to prove it. That's how our justice system works.
     
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    Bullshit...you never heard that one in six men has been raped.
    Why am I not surprised you are defending serial sexual abusers
    Stop projecting your mean-spirited attitude on to me. I care very much about men I have taught sex education for many years in New York City. Something happened to you which has damaged you so I will let it go
     
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  13. Renee

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    If they drive drunk, they get punished . The reason many men sexually abuse women is because it is so hard to prove and they can get away with it. No men will think twice about it Because women are now believed it
     
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    Yes I have
    I think you do a disservice to people who have actually suffered sexual assault when you say that sleeping your way to the top is somehow people abusing the person doing it.
    it's not mean-spirited it's factual you deny that male victims even exist. You balk at the statistic. Because they cannot have your precious female victim status.

    So you have to be damaged in order to know the truth?
     
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    Believing accusers is a miscarriage of Justice.

    expecting them to be responsible for things they do while they're drunk is expecting them to have agency. if women want to be treated equal they need to be equal.

    if a guy can't be believed when he accuses someone of committing a crime against him a woman shouldn't be either that's what equality is.
     
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    no, it's rare men report it, but they are raped as well as women by sexual predators sadly

    drunk men and drunk women have sex after meeting at a bar all the time, nothing wrong with it as long as both parties consent, changing your mind after the fact does not make it rape

    would a sober women having sex with a man that had been drinking be considered rape.... even then I would say no if the man choose to have sex with her

    the reality is, many people would not even be alive today if not for hooking up while out for drinks at a bar
     
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    What happened is that a sex offender was elected president with his blessing.
     
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    Impaired judgement equals dead wood?
    That's funny.

    Why is a woman having sex with a man who's judgement is impaired?
     
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    C'mon, let's call it like it is. When men are drunk, they as useless as Teats on a gorilla for the most part. Dead wood is more often than not but trying is still lots of fun.
     
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    You do realize that teats on a gorilla serve the same exact purposes they do on a human...well at least one same exact purpose.

    As for dead wood, you are factually incorrect. It is still possible to get an erection even while drunk. For that matter one can get an erection while passed out.
     
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    There'd be a lot less fat girls getting laid if mens' peckers didnt work while their judgement was impaired on alcohol. Fat chicks have been raping impaired men for eons
     
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    Thank you for sharing. We are talking about men and I assumed that the gorilla with teats is a male. I have had an erection while drunk
    and it didn't do me much good. Don't know about the passed out part, unless you are having a drunken wet dream
     
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    oye!
     
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    Because she's drunk, and raping you. Don't you know anything about female empowerment?

    oh wait...

    Best thing to do in the current climate is to make your partner sign a consent form. Get it notarized. Keep it in a safety deposit box. You never know when the female prerogative will shift and change...

    I always wonder why, if women want to be equal, that their inebriation then becomes their get out of jail card. Why won't these women accept the responsibility of their own bodies then?
     
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    This is an extrordinary statement, to say the least.
     

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