Why is Israel richer than the 3rd World?

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  1. BlackHogGranolaBrown

    BlackHogGranolaBrown Banned

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    So, you take a bunch of Jews oppressed in Central-East Europe (Ashkenazi) and also a bunch of Jews oppressed in Muslim countries (Sephardi)
    they move to Israel, and within decades they surpass the 3rd World condition.

    Now, what is the Liberal explanation to why countries like Turkey which was not colonized, or Mexico which hasn't been colonized for close to 200 years are so far behind Israel in terms of wealth?

    By the Liberal logic, Israel should be doing much worse than Turkey, or Mexico.

    So, it seems in general to me the Liberal logic falls majorly short.
     
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  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You put a bunch of bright, entrepreneurial, creative, scientific, innovating people together in one spot, good things are bound to happen :)
     
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    Israel has a tiny population and has received the lion's share of US foreign aid since 1948, plus reparations from Germany.
     
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    Beat me to it. :)
    I believe that Israel also "administers" the hundreds of millions we give to "West Bank and Gaza" in foreign aid.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any excuse but to give the Jews credit for anything, eh? :cool:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF does "tiny" population has to do with Jews being smart and scientifically inclined?

    "At least 197 Jews and people of half- or three-quarters-Jewish ancestry have been awarded the Nobel Prize,1 accounting for 22% of all individual recipients worldwide between 1901 and 2016, and constituting 36% of all US recipients2 during the same period.3 In the scientific research fields of Chemistry, Economics, Physics, and Physiology/Medicine, the corresponding world and US percentages are 26% and 39%, respectively. Among women laureates in the four research fields, the Jewish percentages (world and US) are 33% and 50%, respectively. Of organizations awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, 22% were founded principally by Jews or by people of half-Jewish descent. Since the turn of the century (i.e., since the year 2000), Jews have been awarded 25% of all Nobel Prizes and 27% of those in the scientific research fields. (Jews currently make up approximately 0.2% of the world's population and 2% of the US population.)

    Now, to keep the proportions er... proportionate, Arabs should have earned what? over 20,000 Nobels? How many do they have... 10? 12? :omfg:
     
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    The point is that such an insignificant population would get the most foreign aid - over far more populous, more needy nations.

    Are you proposing Jews as the new master race? Other nations have no smart, scientifically inclined people?
    Your post indicates bias.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lemme rephrase, just a little bit -

    The Israel is successful because it is full of Jews.
     
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    Quoting a drug-addicted, adulterous, college drop-out in your signature certainly adds to your credibility.
    You do know that with the territories occupied by Israel, Jews will become a minority, right? What will your argument be then?
     
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    What logic are you speaking of?
     
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    What have they accomplished on their own? In Israel.
    Besides killing the messiah of christians.
     
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    You just made me think of something.

    In another thread, the person of the OP stated how he thinks the ME arabs are aggressive due to DNA.
    Well the Jews and arabs are the closest in relation. They all started with the same dad, therefore they have the most common DNA.
    They should be the most similar to each other than any other ethnicity.
     
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    And blaming Rush for being a college drop-out takes a lot from yours.

    As for the Jews becoming a minority, the days of Jews bending over and grabbing the ankles are over. Worry not, they'll think of something. :)
     
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    That they certainly are. I'm not that strong on history but it seems to me, the difference must lie in such huge disparity in numbers. Perhaps, by being such a minority and constantly forced to fight for the survival of the people, Jews have developed some secret ingenuity recipe?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you're asking me akin to what have Ameicans accomplished on their own? Google it, my friend :)
     
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    "Blaming" Rush???? It's not like he caught a disease. Why do you quote a college drop-out? What makes him worth listening to if he couldn't finish college? How does my point out facts detract from my credibility. Do you deny Limbaugh is all I said he is? They are facts.

    Under NuttyYahoo, I would not rule out "ethnic cleansing" as a solution to Arab demographics. Fortunately, not all Israelis are as rabid as NuttyYahoo.
     
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    Nah, everything Israel today is the result of the Brits giving the stolen land. They didn't fight for it, sure they fought to keep it, but funded by the west.
    They don't even deserve to have a land, IMO, what reason? What other 2000 yr old ethnic group should we give stolen land so they can live where they used to live?
     
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    I didn't say that Jews are not aggressive, now have I?

    In fact I'd say aggressive energy can be used to create things.
    Lethargic people don't create much, now do they?

    That's probably what Ashkenazi Jews got, a sort of Middle Eastern aggressive energy, mixed with Eastern European intellectual prowess.
     
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    That only attributes to a small percentage of Israeli wealth.

    I'm not too keen on Israel myself.

    But, I think it's a perfect example of a country which should be a poor country, by Liberal logic.
     
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    Nope, and I didn't say you did.
    One doesn't need to be aggressive to create. Many artist and musicians are not aggressive.
    Even engineers are not aggressive.
    But aggressive people tend to be impatient. Which has nothing to do with creativity.
     
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    Did you give me an answer about how liberal logic means they should be poor?
     
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    I didn't say that aggressive energy was necessary to create.

    But, judging by how many of the brightest have had mental disorders, does seem to support my theory that aggressive energy can be used to help create.
     
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    Shouldn't by Liberal arguments of oppression, and prejudices dictate that Jews should be globally poor?
     
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    Perhaps, but often times aggressive energy is used to destroy.
    So, I'm not following the connection.
     
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    Are you denying that some of the Europeans who destroyed the most like Brits, and Germans also created the most?
     

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