Why is Israel richer than the 3rd World?

What is it even suppose to mean? Arabs constitute a quarter of Israeli citizens, having an equal rights with the Jews. Palestinian Israelis are publicly saying, if the area they leave in falls under Palestinian control, they will go elsewhere (meaning, they like living in Israel). Outside Palestinians are dying to get into Israel. Comparing with any other country in the region, Israel is an outstanding democracy and is a shining city on the hill. And still this is not f*****g enough, eh? No, you want Israel to be destroyed and to retake their miserable 0.15% of the regional land it occupies, and for what? So Palestinian goats make short work of all the trees planted by Israelis in no time?

When will you acknowledge all the ethnic cleansing, the harassing, the expelling, the expropriating of property of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians done unto them by their fellow Arabs on the scale that makes Israelis look amateurs, not even two decades ago? I suggest you start with that, and then we can have an intelligent conversation.

Jeeesh

 

It means the Holocaust can't be used to justify what the Israelis are doing. I'm actually shocked you couldn't piece that together.

No, it means Israelis have destroyed Palestine to the point where living there is extremely hard. It's not enough to just end the blockade and go "so, we cool now?" The Israelis have a responsibility to repair the damage they did. They should pay reparations so the Palestinians can rebuild the infrastructure. If they don't do this, then no sh*t the Palestinians will be forced to live in Israel.

That doesn't mean they're not committing crimes against humanity. America was a rich democracy when we had slavery, when we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and when we gift-wrapped Eastern Europe for the Soviet Union.
Honestly this is one of the dumbest ways people defend Israel. It's okay that Israel has the blockade, because they have democracy! It's okay that Israel commits genocide, because Hamas does it too!

No, I want Israel to end the blockade, pay reparations, and let the Palestinians have their own country.

When will you acknowledge that "but they did it too!!" is not a valid answer?

 

But you said:
"Not gonna happen, quite the opposite. More and more courageous, decent, thinking people are standing up to obnoxious, loud-mouthed, misguided, unpatriotic BDS crowds and the likes, speaksing out against them. Look around you." CONTINUED

And I look around and found that the exact opposite of what you said was true........no big surprise there.

Meanwhile, the important thing is the trend that public sentiment is changing due to more & more people rejecting America's Zionist dominated MSM & its egregious pro Israel bias in favor of the same Independent Media that you ignore.

Americans are also rejecting the idea of bankrolling your beloved Zionist Colony in favor of taking care of other Americans first:


“81% of Americans Oppose $38 Billion Pledge to Israel”
http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2016/09/19/81-americans-oppose-38-billion-pledge-israel/

EXCERPT “A solid majority of Americans would redirect $38 billion the Obama Administration pledged to Israel toward other priorities.
An IRmep poll fielded by Google Consumer Surveys reveals 80.8 percent of the US adult Internet user population says they would redirect the proposed spending toward other priorities.

- Caring for veterans (20.7 percent) was their top priority, followed by

- education spending (20.1 percent) and

- paying down the national debt (19.3 percent).

- Rebuilding US infrastructure was favored by 14.9 percent, while

- funding a Middle East peace plan received 5.8 percent of support.

- Only 16.8 percent said the $38 billion of pledged foreign aid should be spent on Israel.”

CONTINUED

That leaves America with a traitorous infestation of 16.8% Zionist "Israel Firsters" who should be deported

 

You're either avoiding or missing the point
The quickest way to solve the problem of Zionist Genocide is to defund the Zionist monsters who are committing it.

As much as you seem to be enamored with your repetitious, homoerotic image of "....bend over, grab the ankles and allow themselves to be f****d", the U.S. defunding of it's parasitic Zionist Colony does not mean that the Arabs will attack Israel.

Defunding Israel would mean no more "Settlements", Israeli funding of ISIS, Wall building, costly & gratuitous massacres like "Cast Lead" & other expensive acts of Zionist Ethic cleansing.

 

Not true. The big difference is that the U.S. is not enabling the persecution of Palestinians in Arab lands with unlimited $ Trillions while the defunding of Israel by the U.S. would put a halt to Zionist Ethnic Cleansing & land theft.

 

No Grau, there's no difference. Both Israelis and Arabs are taking turns f***ing Palestinians, but you only acknowledge Israelis and are pissed at Israelis. It's unfair - you have to give both Israelis and Arabs credit for what they've done to Palestinians, but we both know you will never do that, right?

 

Here's the difference. Israel is a major first world nation, being funded by America, and is exerting full control over Palestine. The degree of damage that Israel is doing is so much greater than any other country.

 

Does Palestinian feel and appreciate the difference who's f****ng him?

I think you're onto something here. I think, Palestinians absolutely DO care who's fu**ing them, Jews or Arabs. Arabs get the pass, Jews do not.

Conclusion - The Palestinians enjoy being fu**ed by Arabs, and they resist being fu**ed by the Jews. Would you say, this is a fair assessment?

 

That's assuming you are attaching any kind of importance to Nobel prizes.

Arabs are at the base of mathematics, astronomy, hygiene...

 

WoW, so many fallacies in what appears to be one of your shortest posts... by I kinda like it, makes it easy to deal with.

There's no "Zionist Genocide - Palestinian population grows exponentially. Monsters are not Zionists but Palestinian terrorists and their enablers - Palestinian mothers, teachers, Hamas and you know who else. Parasitic Zionist colony is not parasitic and not colony but a beautiful country into which Palestinians are dying to get to. Arabs will absolutely attack Israel - they've done or instigated it seven times already. Does not history teaches you anything? Israel does not fund ISIS. Massacre "Cast Lead" was not a massacre; Israelis done everything possible to limit civilian casualties. Zionist Ethnic cleansing is nothing compared with Arab ethnic cleansing to their own brethren and to the Jews.

There

 

Bah - he just happened to be born there. Other culture would have had just as much "success" with him. IMO - it was bound to happen, or else, there wouldn't a Christian, is it?

Besides, as long as Jews only kill one another... (just a joke, people)

 

Oh, but "you" already do: It's called Apartheid.

 

Keep going, keep going... wonder how long will it take to least all the Arab achievements starting say, with times of dinosaurs? 30 second?

I, on the other time, don't have the kind of time needed to least Jewish achievements.

 

Exporting jaffa oranges, of course.

 

Well, Israel's policies are indeed racist. Meaning that they based on blood. Meaning exclusivity and exclusion.

The Muslim faith isn't based on blood - it proselytize to anyone. Muslims are no racists - what a silly tought. They may see a yuge difference between Shia and Sunni, but I don't think they see skin colour at all, for exemple.

I don't see what is either funny or smart in that cartoon, that you have been posting several times, BTW.

 

Jews can be anti-zionistic, but not antisemite (what you guys call a "self-hating Jew").

On the other hand, goyim can be zionists. They are many of these in the US, especially among the orthodox/irrational christians.

 

So many falsehoods & so little time.

FALSEHOOD # 1

History has taught me to believe participants in Wars over Hasbara shills:

“Begin's Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars”
http://www.washingtonreport.me/1994...82-that-israel-started-three-of-its-wars.html

The " '73 War" was a collusion between Golda Meir, Kissinger & Sadat to betray the Syrians while sacrificing their own soldiers.

I assume the remaining 3 Wars you have in mind are the 3 long planned Zionist Massacres: "Cast Lead", "Pillar of Cloud" & "Cutting/Protective Edge" which are part of Israel's ongoing genocidal agenda initially called Plan Dalet

FALSEHOOD #2

Read & learn:

“FOREIGN FUNDED ZIONIST GENOCIDE”



In spite of desperate efforts by Israel’s Multi-billion Dollar, “Hasbara Industry, it has long become clear to the educated world that "Israel" wants all Palestinians and / or all non Jews dead or gone for a Theocratic, Zionist State.



The Israeli government is accomplishing that goal via means both insidious and overt:





---- Just a few examples of Israel's overt Genocide:





1. The routine & systematic mass slaughters like "Operation Cast Lead" as well as previous and subsequent massacres





2. The deployment of Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U., Experimental, Chemical ordinance and D.I.M.E. bombs that sterilize living inhabitants & ensure birth deaths & birth malformations of children not yet born. [1], [2], [3]





3. Extermination of Food gatherers, growers & producers. I'll only cite 2 of the countless documented murders of Gaza's fishermen who are wide-open targets for genocidal IDF members to enjoy murdering during an afternoon of easy "fun"[4]:



“Israel fires at Gaza boats, kills Palestinian fisherman: hospital officials”

Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/07/us-israel-palestinians-idUSKBN0M30HP20150307#ZWIs3J97 zbCT54DK.99



EXCERPT “The Israeli navy opened fire on boats off the coast of the Gaza Strip on Saturday, killing one Palestinian fisherman, Gaza hospital officials said.

Citing security concerns, Israel keeps a naval blockade on Gaza, .....and has designated a six nautical-mile fishing zone off the enclave's coast."CONTINUED





AND}





“Israel Sprays Farms In Gaza With Poisonous Chemicals (Video)”

http://yournewswire.com/israel-spray...emicals-video/



EXCERPT “Israeli pesticide planes sprayed Gaza’s agricultural lands east of Gaza in recent days causing huge damage to the crops in a very short space of time.



“When I arrived on my farm on Wednesday morning, I was surprised when I saw an Israeli farming plane crossing the borders towards farms inside Gaza,” farmer Ahmed Badawi said. “The plane started to spray unidentified chemicals.”



Mahmoud Dalloul, another farmer in a different area near the border, said that this was not the first time that the Israeli occupation sprayed poisonous chemicals on their plants.CONTINUED







---- A Few Examples of more Insidious Zionist Genocide that are quiet, just as deadly & less like to make headlines.





1. Use of raw sewage as a Bio / Chem. weapon[5] Food depravation along with the destruction of fresh fruits, vegetables & fish guarantees disease related to malnutrition [6]





2. Relentless home demolitions exposes the youngest, oldest & most vulnerable to the elements:



“Father Finds Five-Month-Old Son Frozen to Death in Gaza “

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mid...h-gaza-n289371

EXCERPT “A grieving father has recounted to NBC News how his five-month-old son froze to death after the family’s Gaza home was bombed by Israel. Sami Abu Khesi is among the Palestinians who have yet to rebuild in the wake of last summer’s conflict which left more than 2,100 people dead.

The ministry has confirmed four children have died as a result of hypothermia this winter …



According to the United Nations, more than 18,000 homes were destroyed or severely damaged by the summer conflict in densely populated 139-mile-square Gaza. More than 100,000 people were left homeless, the U.N. said, and countless more continue to live without heating or running water. This year's harsh winter has forced many to survive by building campfires inside the exposed shells that once were their homes.”CONTINUED





3. An additional example of the more insidious forms of Zionist Genocide in Palestine is the destruction of life-sustaining infrastructure such as the targeted destruction of Gaza's only power plant.[7]



If you're reading this, it is very likely that you enjoy the luxury of a reliable electric power source that preserves your food & sometimes, water supply. You only notice how much you rely on that reliable electric power in the rare instances in which it is occasionally interrupted in which case you are only briefly inconvenienced.



Imagine life in Gaza where, if your home is not destroyed one night, you are rarely with the electric supply on which you rely for food preservation, water, cooling, heating & in the case of the very old, very young, or hospitalized, your life depends on that life sustaining requirement.





The list of fatal forms of torment by Israel's Zionist regime are endless and range from "Relaxed Live Fire Rules" [8] to recreational executions "for Fun" [9].



What is most revealing about the Genocidal agenda of this Zionist State is the widespread societal support for "Ethnic Cleansing" [10] in which "expelled" is, in reality, exterminated or consigned to a Real "Concentration Camp" like Walled & Blockaded Gaza in which IDF members can exercise & boast about their homicidal hobby [11]





Occasionally in this forum Israel's Raison d'être, an event popularly called "The Holocaust®", is discussed. A popular motto accompanying the memorializing of that event is "Never Forget".

It is a tragic irony that is has not so much been forgotten in the current Zionist State as become a real holocaust for the systematically exterminated Native Residents of Palestine.



Whether "The Holocaust®" actually happened, as advertised, remains a point of debate.

However, the sad reality remains that, while we can do nothing to avert past tragedies, we can work to prevent today's current Genocide in historic Palestine.













(*) "ISRAEL'S PLAN DALET"; THE GREEN LIGHT FOR ZIONISM'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels...estine/5326140





[1] “CONSEQUENCES OF ISRAELI WEAPONS TESTING ON GAZA”

http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspo...s-testing.html





[2] “Gaza sees more newborns of malformation”

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...t_12737744.htm





[3] “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III”

https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748

EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds....

.......DU & NDU bombs are converted to micron-sized particles that sicken and kill and murder the next generation in the womb.”CONTINUED







[4] “Video Shows IDF Snipers Shooting Palestinian Children For Fun, But Facebook Won’t Let You Share It”

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...-you-share-it/







[5] “DEMONSTRATING THE HARMFUL EFFECTS CAUSED THROUGH THE ILLEGAL ISRAELI SETTLEMENT PRACTICE OF DUMPING WASTEWATER ONTO PALESTINIAN AGRICULTURAL LANDS”

http://www.arij.org/latest-news/479-...ral-lands.html



EXCERPT “(*)Israeli settlements are illegally dumping wastewater onto Palestinian villages, farmlands and agricultural lands. This practice has devastating effects on the Palestinian lands, both reducing and preventing any agricultural production, livestock farming and infecting previously safe drinking water. The accumulative effect of these issues has resulted in an economic downturn, increases in disease and health problems, an increase in poverty and often the slow migration of Palestinians to other areas where they have more potential for earning and farming which only further compounds the issue of internal displacement.”CONTINUED









[6] “The Israeli Campaign To “Starve Palestinians Into Submission Is A Crime”

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-i...a-crime-2011-6







[7] “Gaza's only power plant destroyed in Israel's most intense air strike yet”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...estinians-dead

EXCERPT " Amnesty International said the crippling of the power station amounted to "collective punishment of Palestinians". The strike on the plant will worsen already severe problems with Gaza's water supply, sewage treatment and power supplies to medical facilities.” CONTINUED







[8] “Israel relaxes live-fire rules against Palestinian stone-throwers”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ition-measures







[9] “Video Shows IDF Snipers Shooting Palestinian Children For Fun, But Facebook Won’t Let You Share It”

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...-you-share-it/







[10] “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6919271.html

EXCERPTS “ Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.





[11] “Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Dead Palestinian Babies, Bombed Mosques”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_177574.html

EXCERPT “Dead babies, mothers weeping on their children's graves, a gun aimed at a child and bombed-out mosques - these are a few examples of the images Israel Defense Forces soldiers design these days to print on shirts they order to mark the end of training, or of field duty. The slogans accompanying the drawings are not exactly anemic either: A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him.”CONTINUED

 

The misery of the Palestinian Arabs began by their being driven from their homeland by FOREIGN Zionist Terrorist Gangs & Militant Jewish Colonists.
Like all refugees, they've suffered at the hands of many of their host countries.

Simply put, they wouldn't be refugees if it were not for the Zionist Invaders who came from afar for "Free Land".

I've outlined in Post #118 the many ways in which in which America's $ Trillions to Israel enables Zionists to continue their same Genocidal agenda that has continued since the Zionist contrived Plan Dalet.

To which other country has the US poured $ Trillions for the persecution of Palestinians?

 

Excellent response; brief, accurate & easily understandable to any open mind.

Meanwhile, I'm reminded of a quote by Al Gore:
"You can't get someone to understand something they're being paid to 'not understand'"



“Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook”
https://electronicintifada.net/blog...ts-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook”

EXCERPT “The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.

NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”

The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.

This active recruitment of Israeli students is part of Israel’s orchestrated effort to suppress the Palestinian solidarity movement under the guise of combating “delegitimization” of Israel and anti-Semitism.”CONTINUED


Thanks

 

JUst to be clear, I'm not opposed to ALL Israelis as there are many courageous & decent Israeli Jews who are willing to stand up to Zionist Ethnic Cleansing, LAnd Theft & Aggression.

Sadly, they are eclipsed by the strident Zionist Ethnic Cleansers who are so dear to your heart:

“Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.

A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED

 

Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been terrorized, ethnic cleansed and expelled from Kuwait, their land and property expropriated, thanks to Chairman Yassir Arafat siting with Iraq in its war with Kuwait.

Is all one needs to know.

 

You forgot to add that they landed in a desert, with few natural resources.

 

In an aside, they don't call the Chinese "The Jews of the East" for nothing. Not much foreign aid or reparations there.

Some cultures simply lean towards ambition. There is plenty of thought and work available on why these two groups (the Chinese and the Jews) are so remarkably successful in anything they turn their hands to. Some put it down to earlier hardship (famine and holocaust, respectively), but no one really knows.

 

I don't agree with this at all. One of the features of Chinese wealth is just that .. an aggressive zeal for material success. It's relentless and somewhat terrifying.