Why is it impossible to find the Buffalo shooter's manifesto?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You need to learn how to communicate. You said nothing about the media when you said that the manifesto is "probably accurate." Simple!
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most people (probably 99%) made the connection because I was actually responding to your post about it. Simple.
     
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    Because if you want the media to be trustworthy, you must first be trustworthy.
     
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    Words don't kill. Ignorance kills.
     
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    Ignorance of how to make bombshell means fewer bombs.
     
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    Anyone who has the slightest interest in learning how to make bombs knows how to do it.
    Surely you know that.

    Read and weep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_explosive_device

    "United States[edit]
    In the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols built an IED with ammonium nitrate fertilizer, nitromethane, and stolen commercial explosives in a rental truck, with sandbags used to concentrate the explosive force in the desired direction. McVeigh detonated it next to the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, killing 168 people, 19 of whom were children."
     
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    And?
     
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    IOW, there is know way to suppress the knowledge of how to make guns or explosive devices from anyone inclined to know how to do it.
     
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    And…? Why does that matter? Nobody is making that argument that limiting the flow of knowledge won’t stop people from figuring it out. What it is saying is you can stop a lot more of them if the knowledge is limited. Change tactics and such.
     
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    Do YOU believe that the media should be trustworthy?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Saying that the "serial killers manifesto is probably accurate", is VERY different from saying that the media probably accurately portrayed the manifesto.
     
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    What are you basing that on?
     
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    Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were both serial killers
     
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    Depends on the source. But I help mitigate the problems by practicing some information literacy techniques.
     
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    And how exactly would you use those literacy techniques to determine whether or not the media are accurately portraying the manifesto?
     
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    Sure. Would you have allowed Hitler to use Twitter to pass orders to his SS kill squads around the world?
     
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    The basic technology required to make firearms and other powerful weapons is now fully dispersed common knowledge -- old tech. Not even your Big Brother can suppress it.

    10 year olds have been employed to manufacture sub-machine guns and other military weapons whenever the price of the name brands gets too high.

    Countless videos showing the step by step process for home manufacture with tools and materials available at any hardware store or Ebay of far more lethal weapons than can be purchased in a gun store

    "Largest Collection Of High Quality Combat Books On The Internet
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    A number of guns interest gun enthusiasts all over the world, from well-known names such as AK-47 to lesser known but still unique options such as the STEN gun.
    Some gun aficionados choose to purchase these guns—where legal—and others opt to build them at home." GUNPLANS.COM
    http://www.gunplans.com/sten-gun-history-and-blueprints

    Gun banners need to wake up.
     
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    Read more than one source for one. Then compare. Are they more or less saying the same thing? Then check the reliability of your sources for biases. Where are they getting info from? Stuff like that.
     
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    So if people have access to the knowledge, then they will use it. Which is what we’re both saying. So we can ban the knowledge and make it harder to find. Then things will go down too. By logic.
     
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    Except they could all be copying each other.
     
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    Then they have to cite that. That’s why you have to look at the sources.
     
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    No. If one source sees that another source says that the manifesto espouses Replacement Theory, and then that source repeats that in their reporting, that's doesn't need to be cited.
     
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    That would be like trying to ban knowledge of how to scramble eggs.

    The 1st amendment is as important as the 2nd.
     
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    Look I work with kids and the number of them who probably can’t even do that should tell you something with your argument. If they don’t know how to scramble eggs, they will have cereal or toast for breakfast.
     
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    Virtually all adults can figure out how to scramble eggs. Ditto explosives and guns.

    They figured out how to make guns over a thousand years ago using bamboo tubes. So, first ban plumbing supplies -- and bamboo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm
     

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