Why Obama Policy is harming the US Economy

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  1. sammy

    sammy Well-Known Member

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    Over the last 4 years, the US economy has deteriorated, the unemployment rate has averaged well over 8% and many unemployed people have stopped looking for jobs. Obama policy is very much responsible for this disturbing trend and here is an explanation from Steve Forbes.

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

    The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

    The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

    As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

    To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. (Please pass this on) These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

    2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

    3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

    4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

    5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

    Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
    Neither could I.
     
  2. sammy

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  3. FixingLosers

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    You are tilting at windmills here Sammy, you can't communicate with Obamatrons with reason.
     
  4. Jackster

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    Pretty good analogy, only theres a couple more factors dragging the socialist method down futher as i see it.

    * The extra administration required to over see the equalization drags down results
    * The smart, harder working kids look elsewhere for their opportunities.
     
  5. k995

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    First its fake, its made up, and already been posted several times .
    Second its clear who ever wrote this doesnt have a clue what socialism is, as the obama policy for the largest part doesnt even come close.
    Third, if you take away the effects of the bubble under bush (and partialy clinton) the US had actually been on this level of unemployment and low growth for over a decade.

    But apperently you rather have huge bubble and deep burst then a stable economy .
     
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    Thats true to an extent, Obama is clearly not a full blow communist we only have to look at his political favors granted to Buffett for his class warfare backing and his ability despite a GFC to make the too big to fail banks even bigger. These are very much corrupt capitalism traits, which ill add is shown by both sides just as bad.

    However, i was watching a doco last night on the birth of Starlin's Maxist communism, i had to stop it and jot down the following because it sounds very familiar to whats being preached today. They promised "Poverty, crime, privilege and class division would be eliminated with a new era of socialism, promised peace, prosperity and equality for all peoples of the world". Sounds wonderful doesnt it? While not straight out communism, we certainly seem to be headed down some sort of path of corporate Marxist communism.
     
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    See now it it suitable for a conservative campaign .
     
  8. Jackster

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    Not at all. First note i said both sides pander to the globalists, most parties seen as right leaning are in the same boat there. However as a conservative i dont see we promise any of those things, only the equal chance under the law for both people and business. No favors for any business, no favors for any individual - equal opportunity, not equal results.
     
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    My point is that everyone in power is making the same vague promises , those are not an exclusivity of the left or the right.
    Capitalism can not survive outside of the state protection and you know it .
     
  10. Mac-7

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    Obama is creating his own bubble through the Fed.

    They have been printing extra money by the billions to prop up the economy and that scheme cannot go on forever.

    Obama is a socialist in a nation that has not yet wrapped its mind around the idea.

    So he has to pretend to be something else.
     
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    You do realise the fed is independant of the gouvernement? That Quantitative easing started before obama was president? How did he do that as senator?

    BS, socialism is as accepted in the US as it is in europe. People just dont realise this.
     
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    It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
    Ayn Rand
     
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    Yeah laisez faire capitalism brought us the 2008 crisis, no thx dont want a repeat.
     
  14. ALibertarianInALeftWorld

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    Really? im sure you'll also argue that laissez-faire capitalism brought about the Great Depression. nevermind the republicans' Smoot-Hawley Tariff. government regulation brought in by a "conservative" then "fixed" by a "progressive" (FDR) with MORE regulation? suuuuure. guys I think the dog is working with the farmer to round up these sheep, but I guess im just a conspiracy theorist.
     
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    well said
     
  16. mutmekep

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    well said
     
  17. k995

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    And deregulated for decades afterwards .


    Nope just not following blindly the talking points that you seem to parrot.
     
  18. EggKiller

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    Funny thing is you probably believe yourself.:roflol:
     
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    oh really? cause all I see are more government programs...and I'm parroting who, specifically?
     
  20. Mr_Truth

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    Obama's economic policies have created the HIGHEST corporate profits and Wall Street activity in years.

    It is the stupidity of Republican Reaganomics that has caused this:


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    It takes the utmost right wing stupidity to pretend this isn't so.
     
  21. waltky

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    Granny says dey's fulla beans...
    :grandma:
    A Shrinking Federal Government is Why There’s Little Private Sector Growth
    March 11, 2013 - Del. Eleanor Norton (D-District of Columbia) says private sector jobs are not showing much growth because the federal government is shrinking.
    See also:

    ‘Spending Growth Has Been Exceptionally Low Under Obama’
    March 11, 2013 - New York Times columnist Paul Krugman says government spending under President Barack Obama “has been exceptionally low.”
     
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    Obama ~ biggest corporate profits in history and massive increase in Wall Street activity. Therefore, Obama's policies have helped, not harmed society. It's the stupidity of the Reagan "trickle down" theory that is the cause of our problems.



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