Why Outlaw Assault Rifles

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  1. Rucker61

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    Legislative slackery?

    Organizing the organized militia is the job of the State legislature for the several States.
     
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    There is no guarantee. None of the guns that the police had stopped him either, nor the laws that made his actions illegal.
     
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    Yup. There is nothing magical about assault weapons. Despite that the right wing stupidly continues to insist these weapons will make our society safer.

    What next - atomic bombs?
     
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    No one is saying that. We're saying that the government doesn't have the power to restrict them.

    Two questions: what is an assault weapon?

    On average since 2004, the end of the "AWB", how many people have been killed per year in mass shootings by a shooter with an "assault weapon"?

    Bonus. The semiautomatic AR-15 first was sold to civilians in the US in 1964. In what year was the first mass shooting by a civilian with an AR-15?

    Oooo, deep dive into the ridiculous. Are atomic bombs "in common use for lawful purposes"?
     
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    What about the unorganized militia ?

    10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

    (a)
    The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

    (b)
    1 The classes of the militia are— which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

    2 the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246
     
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    A claim which cannot actually be proven on the part of yourself.
     
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    It is the State legislature's job to organize the militia; we have a Second Amendment and should no security problems in our free States.
     
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    I want my AR15!

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    Only the unorganized militia complains about gun control laws.
     
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    That's true, the organized militia.

    But all law abiding males in America are members of the unorganized militia.

    Every male should own and be in possession of a military style firearm that can be used on a battlefield or he is in dereliction of duty and not a patriot.

    Since Colonial times America has been a "nation of citizens soldiers."

    When you read the Constitution you have to have the dictionary that was used at the time when our founding father wrote the Constitution. The definition and meaning of words change over time.

    "The right to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed."

    What was the American definition of "arms" back in 1787 ?

    From Websters Dictionary 1828

    Before 1980 a M-16 did not meet the definition of being an assault rifle. It was just a service rifle or infantry rifle.

    Armalite's AR-15 was already on the shelves in sporting goods stores years before the U.S. military adopted the AR-15 and M-16.

    When Colt bought the rights to manufacture the AR-15/M-16 it was being sold in sporting goods stores as a hunting rifle before the U.S. military adopted the M-16 as a service rifle.

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    Colt AR-15 advertisement 1962
     
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    All of which is irrelevant as everyone knows the right to keep and bear arms is not connected to membership in or a relationship to any militia - anyone who argues otherwise is fishing from a moving boat.
     
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    ARs are just a start. The end goal is to ban all guns from private ownership. They can't do this all in one leap, so they'll just constantly eat away at the Second Amendment until this happens:

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    All American males are members of the unorganized militia. It's the law.
     
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    In California even a toy gun is politically incorrect.
     
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    Not according to 10 USC 311.
     
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    Unless you have a doctors note for bone spurs.
     
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    The pro gun side will not be happy until the kindeguardians program is in full effect
     
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    You miss the point. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

     
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    The People are the Militia. That is the common law understanding, for the common defense, under the common law.

     
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    Some states aren't so free today like California and New York.
     
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    Funny. "Bigot" is a word that the Antifa and the retarded green-haired kids use way too OFTEN. There's nothing wrong to be Right, nothing wrong to be White. Hell, see where the Left got us. Look around.

    P.S. I think the word "Assault rifle" is pushed unto the public so idiots can feel threatened by it and eventually act after such a catalizator i.e. mass shooting.

    If I defend my home, does that make my "Assault rifle" ... a "Defense rifle"? Interesting thought for Libs.
     
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    Pray tell. Just how in the name of hell do you keep getting allowed back onto the forum with all of the infractions that are committed by yourself?
     
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    Must be my positive outlook on life.
     

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