Why Outlaw Assault Rifles

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Per capita total gun deaths. Yes
     
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    Wrong again.

    People decide to commit suicide, then they select a method. They do not select a method and then decide to commit suicide.

    And gun control in Australia did not reduce violent crime - it increased it 44%.
     
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    Thank you for your opinion. Dismissed
     
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    Thank you for your opinion. States with lax gun laws have the most suicides
     
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    People decide to commit suicide then they select the method. A firearm is often their first choice, but if a firearm is not available they do not change their mind. They just use another method. Thats what happened in Australia after the 1996 gun ban, people just switched to hanging (the #1 choice) and poison.

    You continue to FAIL. When will you learn? Even a mule learns eventually.
     
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    You just ignore the evidence. That's fine to ignore the truth......but it's still the truth
     
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    It is not per capita that is being discussed, nor are total firearm-related deaths being discussed. The only matter being discussed are total numbers of firearm-related homicides in various states. Cite such figures, and only such figures.
     
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    The obvious question of "so what?" must be asked with regard to the above. What ultimate, meaningful difference, does such make overall? Why does such even matter?
     
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    It is per capita that is being discussed. Stop derailing
     
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    Ignore the evidence if you like.....facts are facts
     
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    And the fact of the matter is that firearm-related suicides do not count for anything, anymore than rope-related homicides count for anything.
     
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    Per capita statistics are nothing more than an excuse concocted by states with larger populations to try and misrepresent facts to an ignorant public. They are essentially saying that because they have more people living within their territories, their homicide levels do not count because they have more people to spare.
     
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    Sorry we are discussing gun deaths here. Please stay on topic
     
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    We are discussing per capita data here. Please stay on topic
     
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    You present nothing, no facts, no data. Zip. The AUS crime reports, AUS suicide reports, USA FBI UCR, CDC, all destroy your argument. Thats why you never present data, just propaganda from VPC. You just troll.
     
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    Have you presented all that? Lol
     
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    Yes, many times. And to you. And you know it, you just troll. You must be getting paid per post.
     
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    I have presented the data many many times
     
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    Discussion of per capita statistics as opposed to actual numbers is the plea of the ignorant and the dishonest who wish to push a specific narrative.
     
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    We are discussing per capita just like every study of gun deaths ever. You are derailing
     
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    So what purpose is it that you think owning assault rifles can possibly serve in civilian life then ? :roll:
     
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    Which does not change the fact. Discussion of per capita statistics as opposed to actual numbers is the plea of the ignorant and the dishonest who wish to push a specific narrative.

    Simply because the so-called "studies" rely on per capita statistics to bolster their narrative, does not mean their usage is the correct approach.
     
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    It does not have to serve a purpose to be legal in the united states. The federal government, and even state governments, lack the legal authority to dictate that a commonly available firearm, sold on the public market and available for ownership, cannot be owned by the public at large, regardless of how often it may be misused by the criminal element for illegal purposes.
     
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    You are derailing. The discussion is of per capita and it will remain as such
     
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    That weapon may be subject to restrictions
     

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