I never heard of it until very recently. There are highly academic threads on PF, where members studiously debate arcane theories. The members on those threads want to have their academic debates. They don't want to waste their time with my simplistic question. I simply ask a very basic question: Why? I'm not getting a satisfactory answer to what should be an easy question. Should I rephrase the question? Who cares? What difference would it make? How would lives be made better? Seems like with all that effort, we could have cured cancer. If we pick one side or the other, and accept it as truth, what has changed? There is only one purpose that I can imagine for the theory of race realism even existing. I must be wrong because I can't believe it could possibly be true. I can't believe that people go to that much trouble in order to feel better about themselves. I can't believe that because there are easier ways to feel better. Anyone out there have a better answer for the 'why' of race realism?
Because far right lunatics think that "we're the superior race, and we're being replaced, so sympathize with our suffering and join us to keep our countries pure" is a good narrative. The far right is cancer.
It provides a useful outlet. This country, and many others, need a reason for their own setbacks. It's good to have a Boogieman ...
We've had Two Long threads on this goofy Floater: one still running as of Sunday. Why don't race realist ever come up with solutions? http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-realist-ever-come-up-with-solutions.510580/ and by the same Poster What is the end game for race realist? http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/what-is-the-end-game-for-race-realist.487663/ And asking what Point Race Realism has is Ridculous. This Is the 'Race' section. Establishing that there ARE races is Obviously a crucial topic. Even if Not the Race section, is discussing the genetics/taxonomy of any other creature more relevant? Because there are hundreds of thousands of studies doing so. Do you object to Chimps having 2 Species, and 4 Subspecies/Races? Gorillas, 2 Species, and 6 or 7 subspecies/Races? (still debating) (LOL, you didn't know) Why should scientists "waste" their time dividing up our fellow primates/differences, and those of a million other Species? Actually, the truly amazing thing is that it's Taboo to discuss us: by far the Most relevant... And that people like you question the usefullness or motive. +
Racialism or race realism is largely discredited with the development of human genetics in recent decades. But until the 1960s, some credibly argued that human populations can be divided into species based on their morphological differences. On the surface, we look quite different from each other and ancient people tended to assume that some human populations were from a different planet. For instance, Native Americans worshipped European explorers as living gods when they first reached the Americas.
Thanks for that second link! I'll be going right there. Yes, I'm still asking what the point is. It seems to me that the only point is to prove that black people are predestined to be stupid, violent criminals. Well, first of all, how does that differentiate them from other groups? A major tenet of religions is that all humans are so inclined at birth. That is the whole purpose of education and enculturation; to raise people above their base nature. To further expand on my basic question of 'why': What difference would it make, if true? Allow me to concede that all points of contention are completely true. Black people are stupid, violent criminals. Heck, let's even toss in 'lazy', for good measure. Now what? Who's lives are, or could be, suddenly made better? Will you concede that there are numerous examples of intelligent, non-violent, non-criminal black people? If you will, you must then also concede that this grouping of people is redeemable. Then, you might see that efforts are better spent towards encouraging these 'lesser humans' to join the ranks of 'civilized societies'.
To me Race is NOT a Black/White Nightly News subject. It's about the most interesting Sub-topic of one I post more on - Evolution - in the Sci section here and elsewhere. In the Science section I post against Evolution-denying Evangelicals. Creationists. In this section I post against Evolution denying Liberal Creationists, who demand Evo stopped 200,000 years ago, when it clearly didn't. Oh those lying eyes! Amazing huh? Again, you're obsessed with the Nightly News/'Black/White/Cop'/2-race, Colloquial version of this issue, while I see it as a Scientific one, including at least one more race: preferably more than that. Are white people Shouting "Racist" when someone brings up NE Asians have a higher IQ? No. If a thread started to that effect, a decent discussion might break out. While a White/Black contrast would bring out the Dishonest/Disingenous "Racist" charges. 90%. Just like Your singular 2-race-"Stupid" issue, with Only the most salacious interest/view of the topic. Race differentials are all on AVERAGE. Of course the curves overlap. Take your pick: https://www.google.com/search?q=rac...m4rXAhWI6iYKHSXtDqUQ_AUICygC&biw=1163&bih=538 So one never knows who one is shaking hands with based on color/race/etc. Could be Barak Obama, who is smarter the 90% of the Red State Numb Nuts who post here. BUT average racial difference could be useful on many fronts. How and where to spend our education dollars. Who to let into the country/Immigration policy. ie, NE Asians with an avg 106 IQ, many of whom are engineering students at MIT or 40%-ASIAN//1%-Black race-blind Caltech, etc.... or, ie, Haitians with 67 IQs. Yes, we might get a Haitian Nuclear Phsycist, but I prefer those with infinitely better chances to Help Our country, and pay My/YOUR Social Security... instead of draining the system importing Failed State Third Worlders. We can no longer afford a welfare state, and let people in just because they are "tired/poor:" a Baby Annex for failed countries/Peoples precisely because of substantially IQ issues. Australia, Canada, etc, have much more enlightened immigration policies for job creaters, etc. Many Asian. +
People love to call each other bad names. Leftists especially enjoy doing it. They must get a big kick out of calling people 'racists'. I'll admit that the word once held some power. I don't think they've realized yet that it's no longer the case. I'm not interested in name-calling. There's no value in it. Leftists won't complain if people say Asians are smarter. Asians are a minority in the USA. That goes along with their agenda. I'm all for having standards when it comes to immigration. I just believe that they should be universally applied on an individual basis; not based on blanket membership in a specific group. I'll confess that I believe some special scrutiny is appropriate in order to deal with terrorism risks. I also believe that effective steps must be taken to prevent immigration for the purpose of obtaining welfare type benefits. "Race-realists" and race-nationalists of any flavor must know that they are fringe groups and that they will never gain widespread followings. Really, the only thing that they can hope for is remain a minor annoyance and a small obstacle to the nation's progress.
The last two sentense are bizarre, and Contrary to what I posted... and why. You are the one who Ridiculously suggested this was a White/Black-'Stupid' debate until I informed I was operating about 7 planes above that. That operation includes Race Realism, because Races obviously do exist, as you unwittingly acknowledge with Asians above. I believe we're done after my last Two explanations of why RR IS a valid topic/position, and how indeed Valid and useful the term is. There was NO answer to why we shouldn't look into human genetics/taxonomy/differences. It's completely logical and, again, would be odd if we didn't, even as we study Fruit Flies, frogs, and debate whether there are 6 or 7 Gorilla subspecies/Races. bye +
They are! I'm actually the first one to speak out against it. It doesn't change the fact that the far right's narrative is trash. They claim superiority and act like the victims. They're white SJW's.
Do you agree Europe should protect her population from mass nonwhite immigration? Do you agree the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand should have a mechanism to ensure an indefinite white majority?
