Why reincarnation was edited out of Christianity?

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Why reincarnation was edited out of Christianity?

Almost everything has been edited out or to the Bible(s), then Christians get to pick and choose what they like and make a newer version based on that.

 

You>> "The kingdom of G-d could have came in the first to fifth century but....... because Cephas / Peter utterly disregarded the astonishing wisdom given to Doubting Thomas/ Judas Didymus Thomas, the twin brother of Rabbi Yeshua / Jesus the church ended up very divided".......... (DennisTate)

Pastor Ken Rank>>

You>> At our time period Judas Didymus Thomas is back, (reincarnated) and Cephas / Peter is also reincarnated...... and if you will study the writings of two of the world's most significant Thomas vs Peter types.......... (DennisTate)

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Pastor Ken Rank: oops..... I edited this badly.....

 

Sent to Bruce Fraser MacDonald by e-mail:
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Pastor Ken Rank:

 

This is certainly intriguing information indeed!

A near death experience reports that there are 14 Elohim, seven male and seven female, and that each human soul actually comes from one of the Elohim.

This seems to correspond with:

Revelation 1:4

John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace beunto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

 

It's apples and oranges. The belief that God has the ability to bring a prophet back has nothing to do with the reincarnation concept which means everyone without exception will have a second life on earth.

Christianity doesn't have the reincarnation concept because it was started by the Jews such as Paul. The Jews were adapting the Pharisaic concepts of which reincarnation is not one.

 

What complete and utter rubbish. You're relying on modern day accounts of past lives to support a contention that has zero support in the record of the past. Everything Jesus said points to the existence of heaven and hell and not reincarnation. When the thief was dying on the cross next to Jesus, he said, "Remember me," and Jesus said, "This day wilt thou be in Paradise with me." Clearly Jesus was not claiming that either of them were going to be reincarnated but were going to heaven. The Gnostic gospels were thrown out precisely because they disagreed with the correct understanding of Jesus's, Peter's, and Paul's teachings. The book of James should have been thrown out as well.

 

Fear not him who can kill the body, rather fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell.

 

Almost everything? lol Just a bit of hyperbole?

The NT has been basically untouched since Constantine wanted a book for christianity, and being roman and all, they liked stuff like this.

But when this book was put together, by several religious authorities, there was an intent to only include the books and letters which would give us orthodoxy, and which would support the beliefs of these very orthodox men. This was one of the points in time where other beliefs about christ, were cast aside, and IMO, the actual beliefs of his apostles did not make the cut. And, the religion that would become christianity, had to mesh well with the roman empire, and not be against it. Nor could it be in any opposition with gov't. So there were requirements to be considered at the time.

We know now that there was just not one belief in regards to christ, and his role, for after all, what he taught could be up to interpretation. And was, IMO. So, you had a large pasture there, and choices were made in what books and letters were to be used, in order to herd this new religion in a desired direction.

And so, what you are talking about happened before the book of the NT was put together. For once it was put together, I know of nothing that was edited in or out, as you seem to claim. In fact, christians have been stuck with what these earlier men chose. You act like it was the written records in Orwell's 1984. The revision of history to make it coherent with today.

I hope that more discoveries are made in the middle east that reveal more of the books these religious authorities cut, and then tried to destroy as they did with some of the texts we have found later on. It would be nice if we found a book actually written by a genuine apostle, instead of the books not written by any apostle. That these are missing, looks highly suspicious that something might be hidden. If one could be found, and it was different, in how christ was presented in the NT, we would then know what went on in those early years, and how a new religion was corrupted driven by a motive. For what became christianity is almost 180 from what christianity should have been, if you only use the teachings of christ as a ruler.

 

Constantine hated Christians, he and Rome acknowledged the more they tried to persecute Christians, the stronger Christianity became. So they embraced it, with goals to manipulate it. Upon the death of Constantine, it is said he called out to Jesus. Funny how death brings out the soul.

 

Yes, history said he converted on his deathbed. It is also written in regards to Constantine that he had a vision before a battle which convinced him to put up with this new religion. And he made moves to do that.

The christians were used as entertainment according to historical records. I guess it was fun to watch them being killed and eaten? Well, the romans loved their bread and circuses!

Of course, we also know that any persecuted religion becomes stronger, generally speaking. Even if you have to hide to meet together. Try persecuting islam today and see where it leads. Or any religion for that matter. The last thing you want to create with a religion is a martyr. If you are trying to get rid of it.

 

Constantine's movement of Christianity was specifically for "political purposes".

 

I agree with you. And it turned out to serve the Empire very well, I think. I think it ended up being a good match for the roman empire. And christianity borrowed from the empire in its structure and heiarchy. Who knows what would have happened with christianity and its spred, if not for it being assumed by the roman empire?

 

Thank you for your very interesting reply!

Actually... I believe in heaven..... and in hell.... and in reincarnation in some form.

One near death experiencer was shown that there are 14 Elohim.... seven male and seven female.

Every human being who was ever conceived has a portion of the soul of one of these Elohim within them..... thus the ancient tradition that G-d once asked Michael and Gabriel to bow to Adam....... and they and their two thirds of the angels did so....... but Lucifer refused to bow..... and he and his third of the angels began a revolt.

I believe that the human soul has all of the capabilities of the computers that we are using.... and far, far, far, far more than that.

My guess is that both Elijah as well as John the Baptist had the same over soul......... the same member of the Elohim within them. The over soul records the identity, personality and memories of each individual much as a file on my computer could contain one episode of Friends..... and another file could hold a separate episode of Friends.

Here is the first recorded statement by the Elohim..... led by the Word / Logos who incarnated as Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus:

Gen 1:26

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And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 

TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON!

 

But.... in his book.... .pages 137 - 170..... Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D........
speaking for the disciple who he is the reincarnation of.......
pleads personally GUILTY to the act that has precipitated more pogroms and holocausts.......
than any other supposed act of the Jewish people in history........
so the book deserves a good read.

 

But I am 58 now.....
and I find myself getting mixed up on so many things that it is comforting to know that I am not the only one!

 

Wow!!!!

Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.:

 

How about this one?

https://www.facebook.com/BruceFraserMacDonaldPhD/posts/963405440413139

 

I think that the early Messianic Jewish community knew about reincarnation.... and probably believed that
Nero would be reincarnated.... which is a logical idea.

Here is the type of information that I believe can get to the core of what caused the Pittsburg Synagogue shooting:
Howard Storm Ph. D:

 

Without first seeing your previous threads on the topic, I just started one on my own on this topic. Sorry about that, but it will probably fade off soon enough.

As a hobby, I spend time translating the Syriac Peshitta text as literally as I can. This is the verse that made me think of reincarnation:

Any man of so believing in him, not he to perish, but to become to him the lives of to yonder!”​

- John 3:15

But other translations don't translate it that way, instead, the KJV says it this way:

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."​

 

There were a lot of false writings in the early years. The Fathers/Saints of the Church were enlightened by the Holy Spirit to know which ones were truly the Word of God, and which ones were not.

Reincarnation was never part of Christianity. What we do have are demons and demon possession, and they can be very deceptive. They can even appear as angels of light as well as appearing as your relatives and friends in seances. They can also be that little voice telling you that you have a winning hand in poker.

If someone recalls something that happened in their past life, it's not really their life. It's coming from a demon.

What I would do Dennis if I were you, is to tell God that you're very confused, and do not know what to believe and what not to believe and to please help you. Prayers can work wonders.

 

Actually it is a great idea to have several topics like this going here.

I will take a look for yours now and leave you with a quotation from a near death experiencer.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

I am pretty sure that the idea of being reincarnated as a woman tends to offend many Christians or many others who are researching first and second century Messianic Jewish and Messianic Gentile thought.