Why Socialism and Communism, or Marxism in general, is a bad deal

Why Socialism and Communism, or Marxism in general, is a bad deal.

Think of all the hard work you are putting yourself into by nationalizing the industries. Then the government mandates that you must work there. And if you don't have a skill then it's going to be hard labor!



Say it ain't so boss, say it ain't so!

 

You might get replies if you would correctly characterize the three "isms" you're referring to. "Mandates"?? "MUST" work there?

"It ain't so."

 

In Venezuela, they passed a law to force their people to work in the fields to run that nation's farms.

Venezuela's new decree: Forced farm work for citizens (cnn.com)

 

Maybe you don't know that Americans have been forced to perform specified years of civil service.

 

Democrats will argue they love socialism.

 

Republicans will continue to use "socialism!!!" and "socialist!!!" as clubs to beat people and as a scare tactic backed only by propaganda and revisionism.

 

Yet Progressives steering the ship of the Democratic Party keep demonstrating more and more that their mentality is close to that of Socialism/Communism.

And by that I do not mean the good aspects, but rather the totalitarian controlling aspects, taking away individual liberties, choices, and imposing uncountable new laws with threats of imprisonment.
Sadly people will go along with that for promises of free stuff and almost entirely purely emotional appeals to solve alleged social injustices.

In several parts of the country the courts have almost been turned into kangaroo courts, with ridiculous lawsuits with gigantic financial payouts that don't even make sense. Guess those on the Left seem to like this government-created lottery. (And oh how ironic, because that's not exactly compatible with the values of "equality", is it?)

Believe me, I'd like to give the Left the benefit of the doubt on this one, but it seems the majority in their ranks act like a little child with a credit card.
(That's not so much an ideological issue as it is an attitude/mentality problem)

 

Except for Vietnam, it's been a universal failure.

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Only because they don't have to live in it. 24hrs in a collective would cure 99% of them.

 

1) It's actually the furthest from collectivism that it's possible to get. These are the people who want a world in which every individual can do whatever the hell they want, without consequences. They're infantile fantasists at the best of times, and the arch enemies of collectivism the rest of the time.

2) Only because they're too infantile to grasp that that control and loss of choice will apply to THEM also.

3) Bingo!

 

Yep. A necessity in any form of state socialism/communism. You don't get to choose ANYTHING, least of all what work you do and where you live.

 

Words words words. Opinions come cheap. You're saying these things because you want to remain loyal to your party yet the truth is that it is clearly and obviously the GOP that is the totalitarian party and certainly not the Democratic Party.

 

No, they won't. Even Bernie Sanders gave up on collectivism.

 

They're not collectivists. Democrats have become redistributionists, typically through the tax system, to counteract this...



We need to do other things to fix the stalled real wage.

Sounds like the "war on drugs" and abortion restrictions.

Republican tax cuts. I especially love the "tax cuts pay for themselves" nonsense.

Cryptic and ideological.

Republicans like a "free lunch," too.

 

The Democrat Party....the choice of American Marxists! You have mandated masks, mandated vaccines while you open borders to unvaccinated illegal aliens. You sic the FBI on Parents who question School Board's judgement on CRT, a Marxist tool. You plan to monitor every transaction of citizens over $600. All this and you call others totalitarian???

 

I don't use those terms. I call them what they are...."American Marxists"! That's what many of them call themselves. Why don't YOU get with the program and identify yourself!!

 

Oh bullshit. A load of half-truths, distortions, and RW talking points. Try facts for a change. I'm not even going to debate you on this because the truth of it is out there everywhere, and debating it would only imply that you have a credible point that needs to be confronted. You don't.

 

I have. Why don't you and the many RW fascists and the racists out there?

 

Stay in your little CRT cocoon and you won't have to debate or be challenged by any.

 

And yet they do. And it's almost always the most fey, soft, privileged First Worlders who claim they're Socialists. People who have unlimited freedoms, and live large on the back of Capitalism.

 

They do not advocate collectivizing production. Sanders pushes a lot stuff he shouldn't, for a lot of reasons, but he isn't peddling socialism--collectivizing production.

I oppose Sanders for real reasons, not because of phoney reasons I can't defend.

As for rich liberals ... they're all set to save the planet on the backs of average folks. Carbon taxes? I don't care personally if we charge $20 a gallon for gas, but that would really screw over a lot of folks.

 

You reflect Biden. And that is why one reason crowds yell at him Go Brandon.

 

Socialism = Government owned and operated means of production. Private property exists
Communism = Government owned and operated means of production. Private property does NOT exist

Fortunately the Western world is neither socialist nor communist, and nor is there a desire for it.

 

The problem really is authoritarianism. Even hard core communism does actually work when those participating have chosen it over an alternative. Competition is really the dynamic at work here. An ideology presents its 'best face' when its trying to attract more participants. But when theres a power monopoly, it stops trying to convince and switches to force.

Collectivism (or maybe it better be called cooperativism) may some day save the human race, but it will do the opposite if we force it on people.

 

When you say “the Democrat Party” instead of The Democratic Party, you expose yourself as a hyper partisan hack who has been trained like a monkey by right wing radio hosts and Fox, OAN and NewsMax. The rest of your screed is the typical hyperbolic, crap spewed by those outlets. Nobody takes this crap seriously.