Why Such Disdain for the Poor?

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  1. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    .... you would almost think the poor are living some luxurious life the way some people describe them now a days.

    Considering the GOP has openly waged war on the poor, why do support it? Why such disdain for the poor?
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    How has the GOP openly waged war on the poor? Did you miss it when Bush increased the per child tax credit and earned income tax credit? Were you in a coma when he increased medicare coverage and the school lunch program? Were you high on pot when the unemployment figures released showing unemployment under 5%?

    Are you living in the same universe as the rest of us?
     
  3. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    I'm not here to talk about Bush's failed presidency.

    -Austerity Cuts
    -Food Stamp slashing proposals
    -Refusal of GOP governors to expand medicaid
    -Deliberate verbal assaults on social security, medicare, and medicad (from the GOP)
    -Tax cuts for the rich
     
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    I do not believe there is a disdain for the poor only the situation they are in. I have found that most people in that party want to give opportunities for the poor to stop being poor. They want economic growth, through friendly business laws that leads to jobs and more wealth for everyone. How exactly have the democrats helped the poor improve their lot in life?

    In the end neither party has done enough for the poor but I think the Republicans are closer to the truth the Democrats on this topic.
     
  5. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Considering how 60 years of anti poverty programs on the Left have only deepened, increased, and generationalized poverty, I think we should start a discussion on the Left's war against the poor.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    For Obama so loved the poor... he made millions more... Obamacare.
     
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    Tax cuts for the rich? When we got that tax cut, my family was living on a single income of $25,000 a year for a family of four. That tax cut surely helped me and mine.

    YOu do realize that Medicare Part D (a great expansion of medicare for drug benefits) was passed by the Bush Administration's urging.
     
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    I mentioned that. She didn't care. Her hackery is showing.
     
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    Another liberal stating a "War on Something" to try to paint fiscal conservatives in a bad light.

    Fiscal conservatives are not agains the poor, we are against the lazy.

    I'd be all for infinite welfare for those who actually need it. But a large majority are lazy parasites.

    Neither side wants to admit that both exist, they just want to call the other side evil as much as possible.

    Pathetic OP
     
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    You have no data to support that.
     
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    Hows that war on poverty going?
     
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    The GOP hasn't "openly waged war on the poor". That's just your MSNBC indoctrination talking. The GOP, at least their talking points, are more geared towards the idea that it is better to teach someone to fish than it is to redistribute fish away from someone who caught some.
     
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    "Poor" is a category that people move in and out of all the time.
    The category remains a constant, but its membership is variable.
    Hard to fathom a "poor" person with a free cell phone, an EBT card, and subsidized housing.
    Lots of people around the world would love to be a "poor" person in the U.S.
     
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    Why are you willing to sell tomorrow's poor down the river for today's poor? If we do not exercise fiscal restraint and intergenerational government planning, there will be no more money left for seniors or the poor in two or three generations. No trends on government spending and future cost estimates for programs or budget proposal offered by the left does anything to even try to mitigate the damage being done to the economy by our current spending sprees by both parties. At least 1 has some members trying to act like they have at least some understanding of math and how to balance a checkbook.
     
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    How do you wage war on the poor. Air bomb them with deodorant?
     
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    "Friendly business laws"

    Translation: Permission from the government to treat their workers like serfs and externalize their costs by foisting them upon society.
     
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    If that is your interpretation then perhaps you should try and start your own business some time. You may be surprised on how your definition changes. I prefer the definition as laws that help promote a business environment that allows growth, fair access, and fair competition with out stifling innovation.
     
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    Openly waged war on the poor? How about documenting that childish and absurd assertion? Is it like how they are "waging war one women" while the Obama adminstration pays women less.

    You might want to let the more capable leftists handle the thread creation. You clearly don't have what it takes. Your post is laughable.
     
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    I think its only ideological differences if anything both parties hurt the poor. Let me use myself as an example say I can work and do so 80 hours a month earning self-employed $500 busking if I do that I can't get Medicaid and a partial check from SSI say $221 the difference between my work and SSI. So I'm better off getting SSI and not working I get Medicaid, a free phone, food stamps and other help. And say my State expanded Medicaid I would be happy to earn $6000 a year and get that not being a overly burdensome citizen and pay what taxes I owe on that income self-employment income and could invest something for a rainy day maybe since I live with my father.

    Its a big issues the Democrats won't base benefits on what I can earn and give some help and the GOP seems to want to cut benefits and also won't offer such options, and neither will push for simple affordable housing. If someone works like in my example I could pay rent and such but it would have to be low cost where can we rent without assistance for ,say, $200 a month or so for everything? In my area tenement hotels were all tore down because it was better for the neighborhoods and the poor living in them but at $50 a week or so it was housing they could afford with no replacements. Both parties did that.
     
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    I should ask you the same thing.
     
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    It's not so much that the GOP wants to cut benefits as it is the GOP is the only responsible party recognizing that we can't afford ever increasing benefits. All too often, the Left lies saying the GOP is cutting a benefit when the truth is the GOP's proposal is an increase in benefits that isn't as high as the Democrat's proposal. Maybe many Republicans would like the GOP to cut benefits, but they seem to want to save them, like Bush tried to save Social Security.

    I know you want to be fair minded in taking the well trodden middle path of saying both parties are to blame, but often taking the middle path sacrifices truth. Truth, more often, hangs out in the extremes, not the middle. There's only one party that's hurting you and it isn't the GOP.
     
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    Why would you ask me that?
     
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    Why do you insist on starting your posts with straw men? Let me show you how ridiculous your questions look from the other side:

    Why do liberals want to make everyone poor? They clearly see poverty as morally superior to prosperity which is why they want to take everyone's wealth away. So why is poverty so good? Why do lefties think we'd all be better off if we had nothing? Why do you support this? Why such disdain for happiness and prosperity?
     
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    You really wanna see poor people, travel to every (*)(*)(*)(*)hole third world country , and you'll see true poverty. Until then spare us your pity party.
     
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    How are your attempts to solve for poverty going?

    I see, wait until third world to solve anything.
     

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